This is why nobody here takes you seriously and why even Laker fans don't want to claim you. He's not Bill Russell, but he rebounds, he will contest shots at the rim, he will give a hard foul if needed, and he is a decent help defender. Avery pushed him into being something other than a serious liability on defense. He has trouble with elite bigs, but most players do. The point is that he doesn't give up nearly as much as he gets you. That's a fair and reasonable assessment of Dirk's defense. It's what separates him from Carmelo and Amare, two other guys who are offensive beasts and leak like a sieve on the other end.