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    no.
    just agree with me, and we'll stop there.

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    Marcus is reminding me of that old burned out guy at the office who secretly hates his job and then one day just walks in and tells everyone: f*ck you

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    Spurs fans are spoiled. No doubt.
    I think this is not true anymore.

    When you get gasol for kwame, and keep Kobe, you are spoiled.

    when you get KG, Pierce, Ray Allen in the same team, and still have good draft picks... that's spoiled

    when you get an up and coming future HOF like CP3, and develop a superstar on the same season its spoiled.




    When your team's plane breaks down 2 days before teh WCF and your 2nd best player is fighting a bad ankle. that's... not spoiled


    I think the spoiled train has left San Antonio a looooong time ago

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    Did the front office not draft all of those players?
    Yes they did. Several years ago.

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    Yes they did. Several years ago.


    and they are reaping the success now, of several years ago; they continue to surround the big three now with role players that help them get to the top.

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    Yes they did. Several years ago.
    So you are saying the only reason the Spurs are successful now is because they have guys that the front office drafted years ago?

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    So you are saying the only reason the Spurs are successful now is because they have guys that the front office drafted years ago?


    he's suggesting that with the big three, the spurs can be so great; as if the FO doesn't need to surround them with quality role players.

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    I know, I was making a point. The front office did their job and continue to do so which is why the Spurs have not only won championships recently, but they are still in contention.

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    I think this is not true anymore.

    When you get gasol for kwame, and keep Kobe, you are spoiled.

    when you get KG, Pierce, Ray Allen in the same team, and still have good draft picks... that's spoiled

    when you get an up and coming future HOF like CP3, and develop a superstar on the same season its spoiled.




    When your team's plane breaks down 2 days before teh WCF and your 2nd best player is fighting a bad ankle. that's... not spoiled


    I think the spoiled train has left San Antonio a looooong time ago

    When you cry like a little because your favorite NBA team only has 4 les in the last 9 years or whatever, you're spoiled.

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    When you cry like a little because your favorite NBA team only has 4 les in the last 9 years or whatever, you're spoiled.

    amen.

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    I don't think any team's fans should just sit back and buy whatever the FO is trying to sell them. Regardless of how much success you've had in the past. The Spurs' FO has been ineffective for a number of years now imo.
    The last four years their record has been four playoffs, two les, one loss in the conference finals, another loss to the eventual conference champs. They've won 50% of the last four years' les. They've won over 50 games every year practically forever. No team in the entire NBA can claim anything close to the success of the Spurs in the last two, three, or four years. If that's your idea of ineffective... what's your definition of effective? Missing out on the playoffs many years in a row in order to stockpile draft picks? Portland has tons of potential, but only after many years of being a complete non-threat and non-factor in the western conference, and many years of not being in the playoffs. You really should just make the playoffs once before trashtalking. Just once.

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    I think he meant there's been a lot of negative sentiment that has no basis at all. It's one thing to have a constructive criticism of the team you root for, but it's pathetic to throw in the towel before a single regular season game has been played. If that's how you live your life, so be it but I root for a gutsy team and I'd hope in general the Spurs have gutsy fans as well. I really can't remember a single season where I've felt like we stacked up better than the rest of the teams. There's always going to be holes, but that's why the Spurs have had so much success - they have players that have stepped up and filled the holes.
    When you, in no particular order, reach for a first round player while letting others slip by, let Scola go to keep Bonner but then you don't play Bonner at all, pay a million dollars to get rid of a backup point guard who turned out to have some value after all, and then lose the high draft pick you counted on to be here this year, only to allow the best of your three draft picks to go overseas while you signed someone else on his SL team, you've got to admit that isn't likely to inspire confidence. Throw less than stellar performances from the other two draft picks, letting Barry go and keeping Finley into the mix, and some people are going to lose their minds. You could set your watch to it. Just because people are overreacting to certain things doesn't mean there isn't some legitimate argument to be made that many of these moves look questionable at best, and highly incompetent at times.

    Folks that don't know what it's like around here in August either haven't been here before or should just stay away until October.

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    It's fun to stats-masturbate sometimes.

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    It's fun to stats-masturbate sometimes.

    I'll be saving that one to drop on the unsuspecting some day. I'll make sure to give you credit for it.

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    Finley in the mix, ahhhhhhhh. I think Barry left more than the Spurs let him go.

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    It's fun to stats-masturbate sometimes.
    Nothing like some good old stats-sturbation.

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    Finley in the mix, ahhhhhhhh. I think Barry left more than the Spurs let him go.
    It's possible, but not more likely. Logic suggests that something could have happened between Barry and the Spurs since he came back to the team after sitting out for a month, or else he would have just gone to Houston after he cleared waivers. Regardless, that hardly unravels the case to be made that the FO's done some things that are difficult to explain.

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    It's possible, but not more likely. Logic suggests that something could have happened between Barry and the Spurs since he came back to the team after sitting out for a month, or else he would have just gone to Houston after he cleared waivers. Regardless, that hardly unravels the case to be made that the FO's done some things that are difficult to explain.
    I think the reason Barry did not go to the Rockets was because he had been injured and not played. It would be hard to come back and jump on a new team, learn their system and play in the playoffs when he himself had not played. Not to mention, Yao got hurt and he probably thought that the Spurs would do much better in the playoffs. They did.

    The only thing I agree about is that the strategy this year the front office is pursuing is cloudy. It is unclear what direction they are heading. I am not ready to say the moves are bad yet because we do not know why they are doing them and what they will lead to. It is a series of events, not individual events.

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    Nothing like some good old stats-sturbation.
    Might be better than stats-masturbation... hmmmmm.

    Or when pulling the championship card, champsturbation?

    Or homer fans being homer, fansturbation? Might like that one.

    edit: Fansturbation could be very useful so long as tlong continues to make threads.

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    I'll be ungrateful about our ty offseason if I ing want to. If my team isn't winning, or it looks like they won't be winning, I'll about it because I'm a fan that wants to see his team win. I didn't sign a ing contract when I chose to cheer for the Spurs.
    you tell us or(how do they say it these days?......you go boy)

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    Thanks for starting this thread. We really have chosen a great team to follow. I have been a Spurs fan since 1990, and have often thought about how incredibly good we've been since that time. Over the last 18 years:

    -We have been a playoff team all but one of those seasons (and that one year was crazy in terms of injuries)
    -We have been NBA Champions 4 times
    -We have had one of the best winning percentages of any pro sports team (I bet we're #1, but am not sure)
    -We have seen two of the best big men to ever play the game
    -We have had multiple hall-of-famers
    -We have many great plays/moments to reflect on

    Seriously guys, we have had it so good. And I'm not convinced that it's over. I have faith in the front office to continue to make good decisions. Their track record has earned them the benefit of the doubt!
    shoulda been around during the iceman days, those also were a blast, boy ill tell ya if they only had the internet back in them days, they would have heard most of us saying we dont want the A-train

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    I don't think any team's fans should just sit back and buy whatever the FO is trying to sell them. Regardless of how much success you've had in the past. The Spurs' FO has been ineffective for a number of years now imo.
    heard that......i for one personally flipped for joy when bob bass left SA, i swear we have been nothing but better(in the FO area) since he and red mcombs expired....red n bass were like them fools in golden state(bring in the names to fill in the seats) i never once had the feeling the spurs were trying to grab a trophy since we lost to the bullets(unseld,hayes, and a couple of nba refs put a stop to that) the days when vinny was our saviour, and we lost hair just watching him bringing up the ball(much like todays draft pick hilll btw)

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    When did Phoenix make the Finals???

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    When did Phoenix make the Finals???
    1993 with Barkley, KJ and Dan Majerle

    Cool team that was fun to watch. Then Jordan demolished them in the Finals.

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    Spurs fans are spoiled and I have my moments. But let's not lose sight of the fact that fans of the Cavs, Raptors, Nuggets etc would trade places with us in a heartbeat.

    Sure the FO has made some questionable moves this offseason but they're the ones that have kept us in contention for over a decade. Cut them some slack.


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