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    Oh no the sky is falling! First you guys get all hyped up about Jackie Butler and then he turns out to be a fat piece of then the all mighty James Gist signs for the big bucks in Europe, who is next Tim Duncan or Lebron James. All this for some turtle picked 57th?

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    Oh no the sky is falling! First you guys get all hyped up about Jackie Butler and then he turns out to be a fat piece of then the all mighty James Gist signs for the big bucks in Europe, who is next Tim Duncan or Lebron James. All this for some turtle picked 57th?
    You forgot James freakin' White !

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    And Robertas "the dream" Javtokas.

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    So because you have a "sinking feeling" based on less than 5 summer league games, Spurs should give up on Mahinmi ?

    Saying that Gist>>>> Mahinmi after some SL games is a huge reach.
    First, it's SL games. Second, it's not like Mahinmi has been horrible in these games and Gist outstanding.
    Could it be the compe ion level in the SL? Some people said that Mahinmi is better that what he showed it in the summer league, that he may have been bored with the compe ion level and wasn't really focused enough to show his real self?
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    We don't know if Gist would have worked out this year or not, but he at least had the promise of having the size, athleticism, energy, and youth that the Spurs are in desperate need of.

    Now it's back to a season depending on Ian Mahinmi coming through.

    I guess the Spurs looked at Carl Landry and Paul Millsap and said, "nah, we don't want none of that right now".
    Well is Gist going to play PF in the NBA? If he is maybe the Spurs want him to bulk up more? I thought I read that George Hill did a lot more reps than Gist did at the pre draft workouts. If George Hill can bench press more reps that Gist that is NOT good for an NBA PF. Gist needs to get some more muscle on his frame badly.

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    Could it be the compe ion level in the SL? Some people said that Mahinmi is better that what he showed it in the summer league, that he may have been bored with the compe ion level and wasn't really focused enough to show his real self?
    I'm not sure that it's related to being bored.
    Gist and Mahinmi were in two different situation coming in SL. It was Gist last chance to show that he was worth a roster spot while Mahinmi had no pressure.
    It's possible that Mahinmi take it more like some practice sessions to work on a particular aspect of his game and didn't try too hard.

    Mahinmi has had a good season last year. He showed great things in DLeague and a lot of scouts considered him as a legit NBA prospect by watching him playing there. Calling him a scrub after some summer league games is borderline clueless. Anyway, I don't expect haters to be sensible.

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    Interesting development.... I'm still not real happy that Plaisted is not going to be in the Dleague this year, but for Detroit, it was pretty much understood on draft night that a move to Europe was going to happen. And it was mostly for a lack of enough roster spots. So I get why we're doing it. Once Sheed and Dice leave us, we'll be able to pull him back into the fold and have a more seasoned and experienced player that never cost us a roster spot while away. But the Spurs seem to have the roster spots, the cash, and the need for his particular skill set.

    I'm wondering if Gist took a roster spot from the Pistons Deron Washington, who's also going to Europe.


    I also wonder how much communication the Spurs and Pistons have been involved in, both sending players to the same team in Italy. I'd imagine the 2 teams scouting depts will be working together watching and giving updates on the other teams player throughout the season.
    Nice observation. The Pistons have pretty much been in the same boat as the Spurs. That is having to draft really late every year. They've got a really good program for developing their players. Tayshun Prince, Stuckey and Maxiell as prime examples of Piston products.

    The difference though is that the Piston's have been willing to play both Stuckey and Maxiell in the rookie seasons. Our last first round draft choice, Mahinmi was stuck playing in the D-league last season.

    Anyway, playing in Europe has worked wonders for Anthony Tolliver who as a result has completely redesigned his game from playing center to becoming a jump shooting 3 point specialist. Gist will also need to do the same, he's got to build strength at the same time his shot has to have a more consistent form.

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    Gist was inconsequential on draft night and now he's a lock for Springfield.

    Must be August.
    Our bench is inconsequential. People are looking for a bright spot and Gist leaving didn't help the situation.

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    It's August on Spurstalk...


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    On the bright side, Tolliver is signed and he is better offensively than Gist. I too was pissed about gist, but what can i do?

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    this way he develops for a season u keep his rights and u don't pay him.
    my question then, is could we be stuck with another Splitter scenario should he play well in Europe?

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    my question then, is could we be stuck with another Splitter scenario should he play well in Europe?
    While Gist could still get a good money offer from a european team, he was a 2nd round pick and therefore isn't restricted to the 1st round rookie payscale.

    However, I doubt the Spurs would offer him anymore than they did Splitter.

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    Our small forward spot looks like trash! 37yr old Bowen who has not offense at all, and his D is starting to fade rapidly. Udoka, not a bad back up, slow and small for the 3 spot, his shot comes and goes, and he cant get to the rim and finish.

    Thats it. Both those guys are really 2s not 3s, bowen is 200lbs for Gods sake and Udoka is 6-4-6-5 at the most! Our best SF just signed in Italy and even if we resign Fin boy do we look weak at SF.

    Bowen, Udoka, Finley! That is an area we have been exploited last yr and it will get even woarse this yr if we dont pull a rabbit out of Pops beard.

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    Could it be the compe ion level in the SL? Some people said that Mahinmi is better that what he showed it in the summer league, that he may have been bored with the compe ion level and wasn't really focused enough to show his real self?
    It's more likely that a guy that's basically guaranteed a roster spot is given certain things to work on in the summer league, while other players are there for evaluation and are told to just go play.

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    Today in the "rumors" section of hoopshype, there are numerous articles where LeBron, Kobe, Bosh, Melo, and Chris Paul all say that they'd be crazy not to look seriously at a huge offer from a euro-team. This would have been unthinkable two months ago. I think the basketball landscape is changing even faster than many people think. And if the USA doesn't get gold at the Olympics, the acceleration of this change will only increase. It's amazing how quickly Splitter went from looking like an isolated case of bad luck for the Spurs to the early stage of a huge fundamental change in international basketball.

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    Oh no the sky is falling! First you guys get all hyped up about Jackie Butler and then he turns out to be a fat piece of then the all mighty James Gist signs for the big bucks in Europe, who is next Tim Duncan or Lebron James. All this for some turtle picked 57th?
    Well, the SL coach did say he was 'phenomenal' but I guess everyone missed the qualifier--"...in summer league with his energy and activity. He’s been phenomenal."

    It gave us some hope and some hype about what has otherwise been a pretty dismal offseason.

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    http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblog...nald_g_12.html

    Jeff McDonald: Gist's Italian Job

    So there's an interesting link on the World Wide Web today. It's in Italian, but there are at least two words even this mono-lingual Texan recognizes:

    "James Gist."

    Gist, you'll remember, was one of the Spurs' two second-round draft choices this year. As best we can tell from this link right here Gist has either agreed to sign with a team in Italy, or he's ordered the linguine with marinara.

    A Spurs source today said Gist has not yet signed with any team overseas, leaving open the possibility that the rookie from Maryland could spend next season in San Antonio. If Gist does wind up in Italy, of course, the Spurs would retain his NBA rights.

    Incidentally, the Italian team supposedly in discussions with Gist is called Angelico Bella, whom we are pretty sure starred in at least two of the three "Godfather" movies.

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    Nice find duncan228.

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    How does Jeff McDonald's ass taste?

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    I just wish he was actually right this time.

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    I just wish he was actually right this time.
    At least we know enough not to trust him.

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    Well is Gist going to play PF in the NBA? If he is maybe the Spurs want him to bulk up more? I thought I read that George Hill did a lot more reps than Gist did at the pre draft workouts. If George Hill can bench press more reps that Gist that is NOT good for an NBA PF. Gist needs to get some more muscle on his frame badly.
    How much do you think Tim Duncan benches?

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    James Gist, I will shine your shoes if you sign with the Spurs. We need your youth and athleticism.

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