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all west conf... nice... TP is definitively nbr 3.. liked these ranks
The top five power forwards was fun, I figured we could tear this apart as well.
http://blogs.smarter.com/sports/2008...ds-in-the-nba/
Top Four Point Guards in the NBA
by David Carrillo
A lot is being made of USA Olympic Basketball Head Coach Mike Krzyzewski’s decision not to play Jason Kidd in the final minutes of a recent exhibition game against Russia.
Kidd was supposed to be a leader of the team, who after suffering crushing defeats in the 2004 Olympics in Athens and not winning a major international tournament since 2000, is clearly in need of something. That something was supposed to be Kidd, whose experience and leadership was supposed to help transform the Redeem Team into something closer to the glory days of the Dream Team.
However, the emergence of Chris Paul and Deron Williams has at the very least made Krzyzewski and company question who will receive the bulk of the minutes and how to best integrate the other two into the lineup. What it got me thinking was who the best point guards in the league are.
So I asked myself if I had to start the next season with any point guard; who would it be? Assuming that it was for one year only and the only goal was to win a NBA championship this year, here is my list for the top four.
4] Steve Nash: Nash is difficult to peg because while he has led one of the most prolific offenses this decade, there are some questions about his defense and age. A couple years ago he would have been a lock to be number one on this list, but at age 34 the decision is complicated.
He was second in assists per game last season and has averaged at least 10 since arriving in Phoenix, but his numbers in Dallas weren’t nearly as strong. This makes one wonder how effective he will be in a more traditional offense, like the one he looks to have next year with Shaq.
3] Tony Parker: It is hard to argue against Parker’s resume. Since being drafted 28th overall by San Antonio in 2001, Parker has won three NBA championships and was the NBA Finals MVP in 2007. He works the pick and roll as well as anybody in the league and is deadly around the basket.
One could argue that he has the benefit of playing alongside Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili, but you don’t see the point guards that play with Yao Ming, Kevin Garnett or Dwight Howard on here.
2] Deron Williams: Williams is in a difficult situation. He plays for a franchise that housed one of the all-time greats in John Stockton and Williams was drafted one spot higher than Chris Paul in 2005. As a result, he will be compared to Paul his entire career, but maybe that isn’t such a bad thing.
He only scored about two points less than Paul a game last season and shot slightly better than Paul from the field and from behind the arc. The greatest thing you can say about Williams at this point: it isn’t crazy to argue that one day he ends up with more hardware on his fingers and in his trophy case than Paul.
1] Chris Paul: Even with the high upside of Williams, in the last year no player in the NBA has had their stock rise higher than Paul. He’s played a huge part in reinvigorating not only the Hornets, but the city of New Orleans.
Paul was the biggest reason the Hornets secured a number two seed in the mighty western conference last year and has turned Tyson Chandler into the player the Chicago Bulls hoped he would be. If that wasn’t amazing enough, among point guards last year Paul was a statistical powerhouse – second in scoring, first in steals and first in assists (on a per/game average).
That’s good enough to be number one on my list – and if Team USA wants to bring home the gold – Krzyzewski better have Paul as first on his.
all west conf... nice... TP is definitively nbr 3.. liked these ranks
Nash is definitely still > Parker
Arenas > Parker
parker is probably #6
I think its BShow can Williams or Paul be ahead of Tony?? They dont have any rings at all........Tony has 3. They also have not come close to being a finals MVP.
This is as biased as it gets.
I'll take D.Will ahead of all.
Arenas needs to make it thru a year uninjured before you even mention his name. Also, how far did he carry his team into the playoffs? How many finals MVPs does he have.
Man, Tony gets NO love.
Because they put up better stats.I think its BS
This is as biased as it gets.
Arenas has been pretty durable until last year.
Parker carries San Antonio? since when?
So Parker is better than Nash, Paul, Dwil because he has more finals MVPs?How many finals MVPs does he have.
I don't give a , i'm being honest on how I prefer my point guards to be. He fits my preferences, PERIOD. It's not like I don't appreciate Tony. Don't twist my words now bud.
Deron Williams is the best Pg in the Nba.
How else do you judge players? On accomplishments. The last time I saw Tony vs Williams in the playoffs, I thought Tony outplayed him (2007). Also Tony carried the Spurs during the 2007 playoffs period.
We all have our own opinions. Im not saying Deron isnt good, but his is still green. He hasnt come close to accomplishing what Tony has. Thats like saying Dwight Howard is better than Tim right now. He put up better numbers last year.
Explain Arenas > Parker for me.
Arenas = less assists, more turnovers, 8-10% less shooting percentage.
If you just mean he's a better chucker, than that's cool.
Just wondering your logic.
Ok I agree that based on accomplishments Tony is #2. (Nash has 2 consecutive MVPs)
But I doubt most ppl will rank PGs based on past accomplishments. It's all about point guard skill, passing ability, and #s.
based on that, Paul, Dwil, Arenas and Nash are clearly better than Parker
I never said anyone was better than anyone.
Arenas is a scoring machine and can score in tons more ways than Parker. On the other hand, Parker has limited ways to score. You clog the lane and parker has to pass it up.
Arenas has range, but he can also penetrate as well as shoot. He's also got 3pt range.
I agree both are not great defensively or passing wise.
It's very close, but I'd give edge to Arenas for being such a scoring machine.
You realize that anyone can be a scoring machine if they chuck up a bunch of shots and shoot 42-43% from the floor, right?
Oh and I agree that DW and CP may be better than Tony right now, stats wise, etc. But Tony is a great fit for the Spurs. Who knows if either of those guys could survive under Pop.
I disagree about anyone being a scoring machine. Parker for example would miss a bunch more shots than Arenas and would have lower field goal %.
You clog the lane and Parker has very limited offense. On the other hand, Arenas can still get his shots.
1) Chris Paul
2)Baron Davis
3) Deron Williams
4) Steve Nash
Kori....seriously was Tony Parker offered a 100mil contract???
NO...Arenas is better than Tony Parker
Deron & Steve > Baron
Elaborate.
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