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each guy has his ups and downs, thou i might add i aint seen a point like CP3 since tiny......ankle breaking,always hitting(on the court),knows where everyone is up to .2 left on the clock and still learning......scary, very scary
TP is da y'all haters!
each guy has his ups and downs, thou i might add i aint seen a point like CP3 since tiny......ankle breaking,always hitting(on the court),knows where everyone is up to .2 left on the clock and still learning......scary, very scary
Well i already know what your going to tell me.
Tony Parker has 3 rings, a finals MVP and he shoots better FG%.
But Gilbert Arenas is one of the few like Kobe,Lebron and etc to have the ability to take over games.
GMs are not offering Tony Parker 100mil contracts. Tony game is limited, he cant shoot from the perimeter, not at all from 3.
You put Tony Parker on Washington and you wont see the same team, and put Agent 0 with Manu and Timmy you most likely see improvement and you will be like Tony Who?
The only thing Tony can do better than Arenas, is finish around the rim, and thats a maybe
We all love TP and what he means to the Spurs. But Williams and Paul have come along and developed basically after TP's reign. Based on his championships & Final MVP you could have put him at #1 DURING THOSE YEARS.
No one stays #1 forever. Is Kidd still the king? Probably not. Is Nash now #4?
I think the edge is so slight between these guys you almost have to take it by their accomplishments each season. I'd take any one of them to make up our Big 3.
OK im switching mine up but people should elaborate why they have their rankings the way they are.
1) Chris Paul- Watch this summer, and we saw what he did in the playoffs to Kidd and Spurs. He finished 2nd in MVP voting
2) Steve Nash- 2time MVP. Hate him or love him he is a true point guard, who can shoot anywhere and gets his teammates involved really well
3) Baron Davis- When healthy he can handle his own against anybody and could be the best in the league. Mav fans know about this guy. He can take over the game himself or set the tempo better than any other PG.
4) Deron Williams- My personal favorite. Can Shoot anywhere has a deadly jumper. 2nd best pick and roll PG behind Nash. But he just does not dominate the games like the other 3. He can control the game but he doesn't dominate.
If Tony's contract were up, someone would be offering him a 100M contract.
Tony is a better passer, less turnovers, better defender, and way way better finisher in the lane.
Gilbert Arenas is a better 3pt shooter and chucker.
His career shooting percentage is horrible. When's he's on he's on, but he has his 1-for-16 nights too. I like GA, but he's not light years ahead of Tony like some people think.
I'd rank them
1) Paul
2) Williams
3) Nash
4) Davis (as long as he's healthy)
5) Arenas (ditto)
6) Tony
7) Billups
Also, don't sleep on Calderon. Now that he's the full time starter in t-dot, he could have a huge year.
If you seriously don't think Parker would get a near max contract right now you are insane. There is practically no one better available with his skill set and big game experience, and on top of that he's still damn young. Parker could easily get 100 million dollar contract especially in today's market.
The only player I would consider at point over Parker would be Chris Paul...Or if you gave me Lebron and Gibson I might consider trading Parker for Gibson.
I like Baron Davis alot (when healthy) too ... might be my favorite. But his health has been a question mark for so long (even at UCLA), so he loses out.
Peoples memory is very short......Tony blew up in 2007, basically carried the Spurs.....he was our leading scorer and knocked down shot after shot after shot. He carried the Spurs thru the playoffs (literally) and won the finals MVP. Two years later............he is not even in peoples top 5 guards in the league. Whatever.
1) Paul
2) Williams
3) Nash
4) Arenas
5) Davis
6) Parker
7) Kidd
8) Billups
9) AI
10) Calderon
I said it's very close. But I beleive if Arenas was in the Spurs, we would have a lot more offensive options, without giving up anything on defense/passing.
Also Arenas has reputation of ballhog. Yes, but it's not as bad anymore. Jamison and Butler get their points in that team when Arenas plays. So would Duncan and Manu.
arenas > parker by a slight margin.
me too... if he wasn't so injury prone, he would be a top candidate
Prker > D-Will
No but horrible try, Nostradamus.
So can Tony.
Because he isn't a free agent.
And Gilbert can't pass as well and shoots too much.
Or you can see a player that gets in the way and develops and at ude problem when he deals with the fact that he's no longer the go-to guy in the clutch.
And pass, and handling the ball, and knowing when it's not his time to take the shot.
How can you even put Gilbert in there? He is a ing ballhog, he doesn't give a about anyone but himself. I don't think you will ever see him average 10 assist per game. When you think of top point guards? You have to look at assist and points. Not just how many points you can score. Because any top point guard in the league can get 20+ points. But can they get 10+ assist along with it?
I think Arenas is too immature and selfish to be the leader of a team. He gets caught up in one on one matchups and just forgets about the rest of his team. Last year he sat out almost the entire season, and Washington hardly missed a beat. Shouldn't the absence of a max-type player hurt his team more than that? I think Washington is destined to be a better than average team for the next five years, nothing more, and Arenas will always be more like Dominique or Iverson than Jordan or Duncan, with similar results, i.e., no rings.
I still don't understand why Nash got two straight MVP awards.
Agreed, I really don't feel like Arenas deserved that contract after what happened. How much more do they expect out of him after what has happened the past few years?
The (cool smart) people putting Deron Williams ahead of Paul are right on. Paul might have a slight, slight offensive edge in terms of court vision, TO's, ballhandling, etc. But he also has a HUGE and glaring weakness in his game that is incredibly easy to exploit; his size and defense. Not only the reason Deron has usually won against him, but dominated Paul in the course of getting those wins. Sure Paul can do a few things slightly better than Deron, but at least Deron doesn't have a huge and fatal flaw.
And, respect for Tony Parker, but it's laughable, arrogant and cheezy to claim he is the best in the league. Those of you who are saying it need to get a grip on reality.
Me either. I don't think he should've even been considered for either.
Too much truth in that post.
I would have to say, in this order
1. Jacque Vaughn
2. Beno Udrih
3. George Hill
4. Tony Parker
Cool he's your favorite, but I disagree with the last part. He had games like this all the time last year.
1a Chris Paul
1b Deron Williams
3 Tony Parker
4 Chauncey Billups
5 Steve Nash
6 Baron Davis
Steve Nash can't defend, he was destroyed by TP in 2008 playoffs.
Steve Nash with a good defense and 3 years younger could be number 1, but it's not the case.
Chris and Deron are the 2 best PG in the NBA today.
You're really overrating him. Get a clue.
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