VSpan looked good for Greece

[DPG21920]

Wrong. That would be like saying a guy like Gilbert Arenas, who got drafted in the second round, would amount to nothing because of initial assessments. There is an adjustment period, Ginobili in his first year was a success and he only averaged: 7.6 points and shot 43% from the field and 34% from 3. Spanoulis did struggle, but Rafer in his first year played double the minutes, scored the same amount of points and shot 28% from the field and 21% from the field.

[DPG21920]

When you watch them play often, Spanoulis has way more tools on both ends of the floor.

[Tmac&Luther]

What V-Span did was no different than:

1. Steve Francis whining his way out of Vancouver
2. John Elway refusing to play for the Colts
3. Eli Manning refusing to play for the Chargers

etc...etc...etc...etc....

The guy was screwed by JVG, ask yourself an honest question, if you left your country took less money to come to play in the NBA, and then basically got screwed by a vindictive little coach, would you want to come back?

I have no problem with him doing what is best for his career...and sanity......

But now with Rick Adelman, I think he would thrive.

DD

Sorry, but I'm going to have to pull your "your on crack....please stop smoking the fing pipe and posting bull " card.

JVG was not the sole reason why Vspan did not make it this league. The guy doesn't have the mentality to play in this league. (sorry, but ah.....saying your the "Tmac of greece" and then going out and tossing away TO's like your handing out condoms at a "planned parenthood" building, while not being able to hit the broad side of a barn shooting wise....... is not being the "next big thing", or the thing that we needed to unseat Rafer Alston.

If he really wanted to play in this league like you say, he could've went over to the Spurs and put in some work (instead of becoming apart of one of the most lopsided trades in recent years), but nooo.....he wanted to be closer to mama and never wanted to play in the NBA again.

The guy was a straight loser with a false sense of en lement and you want to bash JVG for his failures....that's funny. Please fill me in the next time this guy does anything worth a damn against NBA players.

As far as the, "it's all JVG's (the vindictive little coach) fault"......let's look at that for a second....

JVG raves about Rafer's game and the things he brings to a team and also keeps on saying that until Vspan steps up his game......he belongs on the bench.....

Morey and Adelman trade Vspan for Scola and even though S. Francis and M. James is brought along to challenge Rafer Alston for starting minutes......just like the horrible Jeff (the vindictive little coach) Gundy predicted (under a new and proven head coach) Alston wins the starting job.

now let's move onto Bonzi....

right off the bat Bonzi is put into JVG's doghouse.......JVG says the guy isn't committed to being a winner or staying in shape.

under Rick Adelman (a coach even Bonzi had success with) Bonzi ends up being traded off the team after being a big disappointment and showing a lazy at ude with little to no consistency..........now please ing tell me, who the is calling up Bonzi Wells right now?.......yep that damn vindictive little coach striked again didn't he.

hmm, maybe JVG wasn't the dumbass your trying to paint him to be???

P.S.

Never freaking compare Vspan (and I only call him that is because I don't even know how to spell his damn name) to the players you typed above.......at most "Vspan" would be nothing more than a scrub.

[Tmac&Luther]

When you watch them play often, Spanoulis has way more tools on both ends of the floor.

Spanoulis was nothing, but a soft cry baby who missed his mom's s that couldn't even get off the bench to challenge Rafer. The guy sucked.

[DPG21920]

Spanoulis was nothing, but a soft cry baby who missed his mom's s that couldn't even get off the bench to challenge Rafer. The guy sucked.

Have fun with Rafer next year.

[Tmac&Luther]

Have fun with Rafer next year.

Compared to a starting emo little that was Vspan.........I will. That's some weak ass smack your trying to run, it just tickled me and made me laugh.

It's almost like me saying "have fun with Oberto instead of Scola (who would be great next to Duncan) that you traded for that soft ass marshmellow Vspan who BTW isn't even in this damn league and most likely will never be".

[mavfans1000]

mavs windows closing!

[DPG21920]

Compared to a starting emo little that was Vspan.........I will. That's some weak ass smack your trying to run, it just tickled me and made me laugh.

What are you going on about. Ever since Houston traded for Artest there has been an explosion of over confident Houston fans.

No smack, you think you have it so great with Rafer. You stated that. I stated Spanoulis, when motivated is undoubtedly more skilled than Rafer. That is truth, no smack. You are a smug dude to think I would talk trash to you, it is not even worth it. I guarantee I watch 10x more basketball than you and I am giving my unbiased assessment. You realize that Spanoulis cried his way out of San Antonio as well, and made the Scola trade even more lopsided. I have no reason to like him.

[DPG21920]

Compared to a starting emo little that was Vspan.........I will. That's some weak ass smack your trying to run, it just tickled me and made me laugh.

It's almost like me saying "have fun with Oberto instead of Scola (who would be great next to Duncan) that you traded for that soft ass marshmellow Vspan who BTW isn't even in this damn league and most likely will never be".

Ha. Except that we have won with Oberto, what have you won with Rafer or Scola?

Huge difference (besides the championships) is that I am not on here pimping Oberto over Scola. Scola is clearly better than Oberto, and I will admit that. You can not admit that Rafer is not as good as Span.

Have fun with Rafer. Spurs will have fun with Oberto.

[nil.ball]

wow Vspan is jordan like!

[DPG21920]

Childress is no longer in the league, I guess he sucks as well. Spanoulis dropping 23 points and 4 of 6 for 3 leading Greece to a demolishing of Germany with Dirk/Kaman on it.

[nil.ball]

holy , MVP MVP MVP! MVP MVP MVP!
this guy should give nba another try.

[DPG21920]

Not Jordan, but as good as Calderon and he is much better than Rafer. I like Rafer to, that is the funny thing. He is an over achiever.

[Tmac&Luther]

What are you going on about. Ever since Houston traded for Artest there has been an explosion of over confident Houston fans.

No smack, you think you have it so great with Rafer. You stated that. I stated Spanoulis, when motivated is undoubtedly more skilled than Rafer. That is truth, no smack. You are a smug dude to think I would talk trash to you, it is not even worth it. I guarantee I watch 10x more basketball than you and I am giving my unbiased assessment. You realize that Spanoulis cried his way out of San Antonio as well, and made the Scola trade even more lopsided. I have no reason to like him.

First of all......(check my join date.....I'm not a "Ron Artest Rocket fan")

Second..Vspan at the NBA level is not more skilled than Rafer......he's just younger and more emo.

Next....stop with the pussy "can't prove crap" guarantee that you watch 10x more basketball that me....because that's laughable, the fact that your Vspan's pivot man and honestly think that with him (- Scola) would help this team proves you don't know what the your talking about.

Please pull up one damn example where he proved he was better than Rafer.... PGs in this league are like QBs in the NFL, if you have legit skills and are worth a damn.....a team is going to pull you up..............where's Vspan?, that's right he's crying into his cheerios (mom's bosom....I'm not joking, that was his reason to go back) after failing to make it big.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

You're just wrong about this. Rafer is a below average NBA point guard, but he's solid. He doesn't turn the ball over very much, runs the offense well and plays pretty good help defense. Spanoulis, on the other hand, was one of the worst players I've ever seen in Houston.

In Europe, he could dominate the ball, drive at will and had the advantage of lanes that keep big players out. In the NBA, Spanoulis was not terribly quick, couldn't run the offense, shot horribly, turned the ball over and got burned on defense at will. Seriously, if you watched any Rockets games in 2007 you would have figured it out.

As bad as Alston shoots at times, Spanoulis was worse (like 31%/17%3pt. worse). Rafer Alston may had some problems on and off the court, but he was nothing like Spanoulis. What made Spanoulis such a little turd was that he didn't take going to the bench as a chance to improve. Carl Landry was nearly cut last year, but he worked and worked until the coaches were forced to play him. Spanoulis had this sense of en lement that was ing silly. I don't want to insult vaginas by calling him one again, but I just could not have more contempt for that little sucker. All of his apologists see his benching as some sort of conspiracy when he only got what he deserved. I'll tell you this- not a single Rocket player wanted him back.

Same lies and craps. You know there is youtube video of when he play with Rockets. Do not make such fool of yourself here.

[Tmac&Luther]

Ha. Except that we have won with Oberto, what have you won with Rafer or Scola?

Huge difference (besides the championships) is that I am not on here pimping Oberto over Scola. Scola is clearly better than Oberto, and I will admit that. You can not admit that Rafer is not as good as Span.

Have fun with Rafer. Spurs will have fun with Oberto.

There's a ing reason why I won't admit that Vspan is not better than Rafer in the NBA........it's because he's NOT. I'm LMFAO at all the groupies falling in love with this guy.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Not Jordan, but as good as Calderon and he is much better than Rafer. I like Rafer to, that is the funny thing. He is an over achiever.

Spanoulis is much better even than Calderon I have seen them both many times to know this. Now that some fans is able see him play they start understand what I have been say about him. It is like some sick joke how Van Gundy bench him and Rockets fans talks about him.

[Tmac&Luther]

Same lies and craps. You know there is youtube video of when he play with Rockets. Do not make such fool of yourself here.

Please fill us in on the "same lies same crap", because what that guy typed was the truth.. You obviously don't know what the your talking about when it comes to NBA ball.

P.S.

Don't give me about "youtube clips" there's youtube clips that could make Darko look like a allstar.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Please fill us in on the "same lies same crap", because what that guy typed was the truth.. You obviously don't know what the your talking about when it comes to NBA ball.

You stupid Rockets dumbass fans is now start to learn what mistake you make and is drive you crazy. No team in right mind would ever let such player as Spanoulis go because the coach refuse use him.

Spanoulis is so much better than idiots like Alston and Luther Head is just hilarious thing see how stupid Rockets fan is.

[Tmac&Luther]

Spanoulis is much better even than Calderon I have seen them both many times to know this. Now that some fans is able see him play they start understand what I have been say about him. It is like some sick joke how Van Gundy bench him and Rockets fans talks about him.

Sorry, but this eruo (or whatever the he is) just lost his cred card.......Vspan better than Calderon.

I'm sorry.... don't blame me, I have to get this all out...

That's funny as .

[Tmac&Luther]

Spanoulis is so much better than idiots like Alston and Luther Head is just hilarious thing see how stupid Rockets fan is.

Yeah, that's why the guy couldn't get off the bench........stop being a damn dumbass. sorry still laughing over you last post.. Vspan being better over Calderon and Vspan just wanted to be with mommy.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Sorry, but this eruo (or whatever the he is) just lost his cred card.......Vspan better than Calderon.

I'm sorry.... don't blame me, I have to get this all out...

That's funny as .

Last two times Greece play Spain it was very obvious who is better player.

[Tmac&Luther]

Last two times Greece play Spain it was very obvious who is better player.

Newsflash dumbass, these olympic teams don't = who's the better player/teams. In the NBA when your surrounded by NBA players at every position..(players that can make great play despite being surrounded be great players vs. idiots that can't even get off the bench).....that's what = who's the better PG/player.


Honestly stop being a "international fan" and wake the up.....because if your really trying to suggest that if Vspan was to enter the league tommorrow and average 12 and 7 on 44% shooting everybody here would laugh in your face.

[DPG21920]

First of all......(check my join date.....I'm not a "Ron Artest Rocket fan")

Second..Vspan at the NBA level is not more skilled than Rafer......he's just younger and more emo.

Next....stop with the pussy "can't prove crap" guarantee that you watch 10x more basketball that me....because that's laughable, the fact that your Vspan's pivot man and honestly think that with him (- Scola) would help this team proves you don't know what the your talking about.

Please pull up one damn example where he proved he was better than Rafer.... PGs in this league are like QBs in the NFL, if you have legit skills and are worth a damn.....a team is going to pull you up..............where's Vspan?, that's right he's crying into his cheerios (mom's bosom....I'm not joking, that was his reason to go back) after failing to make it big.

I love when it is so easy to point out examples in one sentence that disprove an entire post: BENO UDRIH.

Where did I say that Spanoulis minus Scola makes the Rockets better?
Where is Josh Childress? I guess he can not cut it either...

I have no ties to Spanoulis and would not take him over Parker, but would without a doubt take him over Rafer. I am not enamored with him at all, but do realize he could be a serviceable guard in the NBA.

[DPG21920]

Sorry, but this eruo (or whatever the he is) just lost his cred card.......Vspan better than Calderon.

I'm sorry.... don't blame me, I have to get this all out...

That's funny as .

Smilies are for 8 year old girls.