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    .............should we go to everyones (countries) aid who yells for help? Or should we worry more about our own country and only pursue things if NATO has our backs completely.

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    no, gino should.

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    I propose we all forget are petty differences and go boogey-boarding with Barry Obama.

    "Dude.......I got totally tubed on that last wave. in!"

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    Yes, except in places where there is real suffering and need for liberation.

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    double post.

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    i hunt fenced animals clambake's Avatar
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    gino, maybe you should pick the sleep out of your eyes before reading this.......

    1. russia would never accept a conventional military defeat from the US.

    2. the US would never accept a conventional military defeat from russia.

    mccain played it stupid.

    obama played it smart.

    any action will have to be completely covert, and mccain blew it!

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    lol @ the question obviously looking for one answer over the other.

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    lol @ the question obviously looking for one answer over the other.
    No joke....should just change the question to "Should we be stupid or smart"?

    How bout, "Should the U.S. stand silent as innocent civilians are violently killed in the invasion of their democratic country?"

    Dont worry clambake, Im sure the Russians will stop at Georgia just as the Germans stopped at Austria.

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    i hunt fenced animals clambake's Avatar
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    gino, maybe you should pick the sleep out of your eyes before reading this.......

    1. russia would never accept a conventional military defeat from the US.

    2. the US would never accept a conventional military defeat from russia.

    mccain played it stupid.

    obama played it smart.

    any action will have to be completely covert, and mccain blew it!

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    clambake, there's other options besides going to war with Russia and going body-surfing.

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    Cool use of quoting yourself and then not adding anything. You bring new meaing to the term "broken record".

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    Actually I think that statement by McCain hurts him more politically than does the Obama statement. Both candidates are seeking to separate themselves from Bush but this statement by McCain smacks of more of the same support for Bush policies. Obama on the other hand dodged the question with a politically correct answer and just said please stop fighting.

    You have to know that Obama is a very astute politician. He doesn't say anything unless there is a purpose to it. He will shift with the wind and co-opt the Republican positions. He's already flip flopped on withdrawing the troops immediately and is shifting to the middle ground in drawing Christian right voters to him by making stump speeches at Rick Warren's Saddleback Church.

    McCain is all about attack ads at the moment and support of the Iraq and Afghanistan policies. Is McCain a Neocon too? He's supposed to be a moderate but I'm not so sure.
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    countries are not philanthropic, they are only self-interested.

    anybody who thinks any country is altruistic, even the Mythical Good Angel America, is believing a myth.

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    clambake, there's other options besides going to war with Russia and going body-surfing.
    Absolutely -- you cheer on the home team at the pool or the gym; or better yet, you can spend time checking out the asses of female beach volleyball players!!

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    Absolutely -- you cheer on the home team at the pool or the gym; or better yet, you can spend time checking out the asses of female beach volleyball players!!
    You missed the point. McCain didn't call for war with Russia, did he?

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    You missed the point. McCain didn't call for war with Russia, did he?
    No, I'm quite sure I didn't. You seem to think it absurd for a candidate to be vacationing during this event; I'm not missing the point by noting that the man who was actually elected to handle situations like this one might as well have been boogey boarding in Hawaii. If its somehow inexcusable for a candidate with no power to be vacationing, how is it excusable for the man who holds power to be checking out the asses of young lasses on a fake beach in China?

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    No, I'm quite sure I didn't. You seem to think it absurd for a candidate to be vacationing during this event; I'm not missing the point by noting that the man who was actually elected to handle situations like this one might as well have been boogey boarding in Hawaii. If its somehow inexcusable for a candidate with no power to be vacationing, how is it excusable for the man who holds power to be checking out the asses of young lasses on a fake beach in China?
    I like that Bush was now checking out their asses. And Im not trying to defend Bush, but he did make a much bolder statement than Obama.

    Bush is an idiot. This is not news. But isn't Obama suppose to be smart?

    To say that its okay for Obama to release some ridiculous statement, meet with reporters and make another ridiculous statement and then blame it on him being on vacation is just absurd.

    "Im on vacation! Im not required to be smart."

    Do you think that Obama will change his stance once he's gotten enough R&R? If so, the Chinese and Russians would be wise to target invasions around Obama's planned trips to Camp David when he's president.
    Last edited by Gino; 08-12-2008 at 01:19 PM.

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    When Obama goes on Vacation, Obama is just taking a break from the saving the world.

    When Obama makes a verbal gaffe, we should rise above the politics of personal destruction and not be judgemental and lampoon the man on prime time tv.

    When Obama makes a moral equivocation of Georgia and Russia, we should hail his highness and forget that he might make moral equivocations when another of our allies will be attacked, Israel?

    When Obama decides to decline McCains invitation for public debates, it's not because he has dog debate skills that make George Bush look like Tony Blair and Gordon Brown, he does it because he has a fifteen pt lead in the polls..... dope!

    I mean cmon are you really expecting an honest response from liberals? I mean, sudden listeners of Toby Keith, Chevy Driving, NRA membership hotdog rock n roll independents like FWDT.

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    They can until China wakes up.

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    They can until China wakes up.
    Puto Communist slime who hate the Creole structure of Latin America but still follow a Creole leader who manipulates them to overthrowing the Creole Anglo power structure and give it back to other White heritage s, same people, new philosophy, same hole anus of a despot country. You brown commie s give us brown people a bad name. Maybe Pinochet had a point.

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    Puto Communist slime who hate the Creole structure of Latin America but still follow a Creole leader who manipulates them to overthrowing the Creole Anglo power structure and give it back to other White heritage s, same people, new philosophy, same hole anus of a despot country. You brown commie s give us brown people a bad name. Maybe Pinochet had a point.


    take a deep breath and once you put your thoughts in order you can post again

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    take a deep breath and once you put your thoughts in order you can post again
    I essory my freind, u like me espeaking very slow for u si?

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    Puto Communist slime who hate the Creole structure of Latin America but still follow a Creole leader who manipulates them to overthrowing the Creole Anglo power structure and give it back to other White heritage s, same people, new philosophy, same hole anus of a despot country. You brown commie s give us brown people a bad name. Maybe Pinochet had a point.

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    wait -- is that really about cheguevara's screen name?

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    We'd have to start policing the world in the first pace in order to continue policing it. America policies American interests and nothing more. There is no moral right or wrong high ground that American stands on.

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    We'd have to start policing the world in the first pace in order to continue policing it. America policies American interests and nothing more. There is no moral right or wrong high ground that American stands on.
    that was exactly my point in the other thread. It doesnt' matter if USA is least violent superpower. they will do whatever it takes to protect their interests. That is the definition of empire, no matter if it's a democracy, communism, etc.

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