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Hezbollah is not an Arab organization, yet they have the support of Syria, and the sunni terrorist groups.
Gino just doesn't understand that McCain's talk means nothing because he can't do anything about it.
Gino, let me put it to you this way. If I had come out and said before McCain and Obama that Nato should do this and blah blah blah would that mean I was more qualified than either to be president? Your argument is really really bad.
Hezbollah is not an Arab organization, yet they have the support of Syria, and the sunni terrorist groups.
Why are you trying to change the subject when your ignorance about Iran has been exposed?
We get it MannyisMonkeyPlacenta! Obama promised free banana machines at every zoo cage in america.
How would Iran be able to attack Israel? You think the US would need to step in there? I think its really funny that people who have no idea of the worlds current military situations are still voting in case another WW2 breaks out when a war of that nature is almost impossible now.
The Russian Georgian conflict is going to end in the very short future because the Russians can't afford to fight very long. War is incredibly expensive and incredibly difficult to wage on anything more than a limited local level right now because of that.
I get it, your arguments have zero merit so you devolve to your usual set of played out insults. How does it feel to be dumber than this monkey?
Monkeys wouldn't know what ballistic missiles are, so i don't figure they could see an attack from iran as plausible. WHy am i wasting my time with some ass who believes he knows about the weather?
I love this place -- substantive arguments every time I drop into a new thread.
Aside from you acting like an ass. You would have to admit, that Obama's weakness from people are that he might be weak on foreign defense. With him morally equivocating the first time around, he didn't help his case now did he.
You can drop the whole US vs Russia thing because this has nothing to do with that.
I am confused how calling for restraint is moral equivocation.
I'm sorry obama didn't flat out say " Hey guys, lets moraly equivocate now and put down your weapons."
If you can't see moral equivocation in how Russia being an aggressor by attacking Georgia, obama tells both sides to put down their arms, then there's a weather thread for all the s who never heard of the Weather Channel in the Club Forum.
If you can't see that Iran is not an Arab country, you should probably educate yourself more before spouting off in a political forum.
I await your attempt to distract with personal insults.
So questioning the right-wing's view of Obama is acting like an ass?
I've never even brought up the whole US v. Russia thing, so I'm not sure why I need to drop that now or be reminded that it has nothing to do with anything discussed here. My point all along has been that there's very little rhetorical difference between what McCain said "we really don't like you invading Georgia because we value Georgia and insist that others respect the sovereignty of other nation states, including Georgia, and people should look really hard at Russia now" and what Obama said "we really think that the sovereignty of nations should be respected." The only difference I've seen is that McCain: (1) didn't happen to be on vacation at the time; and (2) he suggested anger beyond his admonitions about not invading other countries. I'm not sure that either is particularly significant; and I'm not sure that a candidate who "merely" suggests that sovereignty be respected is implicated in any sort of moral equivocation -- it's not as if he said the Russians were right and then said that they were wrong. You might challenge him for not having been more strident, but that's not moral equivocation.
I've also said that it's absurd to chastize Obama for boogey boarding during the invasion, given what the President of the nation was up to at the same time.
And, ultimately, I've said that for all three men, there's great irony in an American political leader clamoring for the respect of sovereign states.
What's the moral equivocation there. I can't even see that he's speaking equivocally in asking both sides to put down their arms. That seems like a pragmatic approach to ending the violence as soon as possible. I'm not sure that it's the best approach to the problem to condemn the invasion stridently while nothing is being done to bring an rapid end to the hostilities.
One thing is for sure -- the increase in nonsense politicobabble like "moral equivocation" is the surest signs that the conventions are nearing and that the fall campaign will soon be in full swing.
So if Iran were to attack Israel with ballistic weapons you think they'd somehow need the United States to fight back? I'm assuming you know very little about the use of ballistic weapons and how ineffective they are as war fighting weapons unless loaded with weapons of mass destruction because there is no other reason you'd propose that US help would be needed in such a situation.
I agree that these problems with Russia are not good news for Obama. Usually when there is international tension, ppl will vote for the more hardline candidate.
I can see Mcain campaign will milk this for all it's worth. I will say it right now, if this tension escalates, Obama has no chance.
I doubt it. His stomach probably cannot tolerate milk at this late stage of his life.
If you want to say that this is bad for Obama politically that is one thing. But equating what is good for a candidate politically and what is reality can be two very different things because of how political opions are formed. The fact that Republicans are percived to be the best in teh foriegn policy department when they've headed 8 straight years of absolutely horrible foriegn policy is more than enough proof of that.
This of course took place after Georgia launched an attack on South Ossetia for four days. During the Olympics, no less. But yeah, Georgia is totally innocent here.
Obama's response was perfect. There is no diplomacy here, just two children in a sandbox swinging at each other. What the is he going to do as the presumptive democratic nominee for an office that's presently already taken? Obama knows any hard stance against Russia is not only devoid of an ability to change things, but it could antagonize Putin and actually push the Russians further along.
It's sad, really. After the storm that Iraq has been, we have a guy who comes along and states, "Can we please do this without weapons? I think that would be the best solution." And you're attempting to lambaste him for it.
BOTH countries are in the wrong. Both need to be sanctioned for what happened, a senseless slaughter during a time of world unity.
But hey, I guess I understand McCain's policy behind supporting Georgia. After all, they invaded just like we did. We're practically brothers! Let's support them because they espouse the guise of democracy whilst simultaneously attempting to gain power through their military! That's the kind of nation we need to support!
i didnt say iran was an arab country.
correction i did imply it by saying "other arab countries" seeing how Iran is not arab but persian, yes that was incorrect.
Still the fact is that it's not safe to assume that arab countries will not comply with iran.
Failboat. Nice try though.
Lame,
I see u get your rocks off at the 4chan.
and that's what i said, this has nothing to do with swordfighting Russia.
I know my demographics, unlike one of us. You just bandied about your ignorance for the entire board to see, so I would seriously stop attempting to put others in their place.Lame,
I see u get your rocks off at the 4chan.
And seriously, if Syria is a real military threat to Israel, they should have been able to keep Israel from occupying about 500 square miles of their land for over forty years.
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