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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    If your so scared to go to work that you have to bring a gun to school then maybe you shouldn't be a schoolteacher......but that's too much common sense for Texas...parents should be outraged..

    HOUSTON (Reuters) - A Texas school district will let teachers bring guns to class this fall, the district's superintendent said on Friday, in what experts said appeared to be a first in the United States.

    The board of the small rural Harrold Independent School District unanimously approved the plan and parents have not objected, said the district's superintendent, David Thweatt.

    School experts backed Thweatt's claim that Harrold, a system of about 110 students 150 miles northwest of Fort Worth, may be the first to let teachers bring guns to the classroom.

    Thweatt said it is a matter of safety.

    "We have a lock-down situation, we have cameras, but the question we had to answer is, 'What if somebody gets in? What are we going to do?" he said. "It's just common sense."

    Teachers who wish to bring guns will have to be certified to carry a concealed handgun in Texas and get crisis training and permission from school officials, he said
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    Recent school shootings in the United States have prompted some calls for school officials to allow students and teachers to carry legally concealed weapons into classrooms.

    The U.S. Congress once barred guns at schools nationwide, but the U.S. Supreme Court struck the law down, although state and local communities could adopt their own laws. Texas bars guns at schools without the school's permission.
    Yahooooooo

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    They still have to get the certified license to carry the gun. I doubt many will actually do it and the law will fall into obscurity just as the assault-weapons ban expiration did.

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    If your so scared to go to work that you have to bring a gun to school then maybe you shouldn't be a schoolteacher......but that's too much common sense for Texas...parents should be outraged..



    Yahooooooo
    Its the parents fault that teachers need guns to begin with

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    A town 150 miles n/w of Fort Worth with only a 110 students has a problem with school gun violence or terrorist students that justifies the teachers packing heat?

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    They gotta do something to protect themselves from rattlesnakes

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    I think this is awesome.

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    No Gun Left Behind is a great strategery.

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    I think this is awesome.
    In what way?

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    Better not act out in class now.

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    I'm glad I'm becoming a teacher now.

    Lock'n'load'n'teach

    When kids are misbehaving I'll just reach into my desk, pull out my glock, point it at them, and tell them to shut the up.

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    I hate guns, guns are evil and should be banned that way only bad people will have them
    If this law change prevents one Columbine, it's done its job.

    This is as much about them setting a trend and a message as it is actually having to deal with a threat.

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    People being protected by licensed and trained gun owners is always a good thing. Its easy to say that it can't happen there but I'm pretty sure thats what is always said.

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    People being protected by licensed and trained gun owners is always a good thing. Its easy to say that it can't happen there but I'm pretty sure thats what is always said.
    Good take

    People act like this law will have every teacher showing up packing an assault rifle.

    They would have to go through everything one does to get a CHL, and then some (CHL... 8 hour class, shooting proficiency exam, federal background check).

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    This is very similar to the issue of whether airline pilots should be allowed to carry a weapon. As others have pointed out, those with the weapons will need to be trained, and certified to handle the weapon and they will need to go through crisis training.

    In these days where a shooter can kill dozens of people in under 30 seconds, having one or more trained professionals on the scene could save many, many lives.

    I don't think it is an easy issue to decide, but I'd be for arming the teachers. I would probably want them to receive some sort of police training and to be listed with the police department. After all, you are sort of deputizing these people.

    I would also want to see limitations, like no automatic weapons, one primary and one back up weapon only, and a limit on the type and quan y of ammo.

    /*tom*/

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    I would also want to see limitations, like no automatic weapons, one primary and one back up weapon only, and a limit on the type and quan y of ammo.
    Part of the law for having a CHL is the weapon must be concealable, which is going to address a lot of your concerns. The only weapons allowed would be those deemed legal by the government.

    As to limit of quan y of ammo, I'm sorry but that's a little shortsighted. People should be allowed to carry as much as they can comfortably and concealed. Saying 'well, you can carry but only one 10 round clip' is pointless.

    Most people aren't good enough shots to drop a bad guy in one shot, , the stats for law enforcement are that they only hit the target with their first shot 43% of the time, to bring something like that to the equation.

    Plus, what if there's multiple bad guys, or it takes you 4-5 shots to figure out they have on body armor?

    The CHL course goes a long way to sorting out those who should and shouldn't have a firearm, and it appears from the article that they would have to receive crisis training (this would likely be with law enforcement) and permission from school officials (to me, the people they work with would know if they are stable enough to have a gun or not).

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    why not have armed guard(s) on premises? Another niche for Blackwater mercenaries.

    Let the teachers be only teachers who win respect by their teaching and personal characteristics.

    Avoid the kids asking themselves whether the teacher is packing heat or fearing the teacher as a shooter.

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    why not have armed guard(s) on premises? Another niche for Blackwater mercenaries.



    Hooray higher taxes!!!!!!!!!!!


    Dude, can you just admit finally that you are a card carrying member of the Democratic Party?


    Oh wait, you're too much of a coward to take me off ignore........my bad.

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    All Texans know that not a single registered gun owner has psychological problems, and there's absolutely no possibility of any of these teachers going wonka and unloading a clip on their students.
    Think about it, the worse that can happen is a dozen dead kids, then the ordinance will be lifted... no big deal


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    All Texans know that not a single registered gun owner has psychological problems, and there's absolutely no possibility of any of these teachers going wonka and unloading a clip on their students.
    Think about it, the worse that can happen is a dozen dead kids, then the ordinance will be lifted... no big deal

    I hate this argument. If a teacher wants to go shoot up their school, do you think they're going to go pay $130 or so for the CHL class, go sit in a classroom for 10 hours of CHL instruction, fill out about 7 different forms, get finger printed, pay another $150 to the state of Texas for the application, sit around for 4 months to wait on processing and an FBI background check, go through whatever crisis training it is being talked about in the article, all so they can pop a few rounds off in the school because they had a bad day?

    If a teacher wants to go shoot up their school, they're going to do it, this isn't an avenue for them somehow cir venting the law.

    Let the teachers be only teachers who win respect by their teaching and personal characteristics.

    Avoid the kids asking themselves whether the teacher is packing heat or fearing the teacher as a shooter.
    You're a dumbass. It's not about winning the respect of their students, it's about the fact if another Columbine happening, someone being able to do something about it before the school is full of dead kids.

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    how many schools and colleges have been shot up in how many total schools and colleges in USA.

    driving to school is a much bigger risk than the risk of getting shot in school.

    So, less twerp, arm ALL the teachers with handguns and personal armor. Nice ing country you want.

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    how many schools and colleges have been shot up in how many total schools and colleges in USA.

    driving to school is a much bigger risk than the risk of getting shot in school.

    So, less twerp, arm ALL the teachers with handguns and personal armor. Nice ing country you want.
    There have been more school shooting incidents committed (and that's not even touching the death count) than total murders committed by CHL holders in the state of Texas since the CHL law was passed. So stick that in your candy ass pipe and smoke it.

    Where did I ever say arm every teacher? I said the ones who choose to go through the CHL training, background check, additional crisis training from local law enforcement, and have administrative signoff should be allowed to do so.

    Love the petty insult though, typical pussy ass from you. Mixed in with a dose of not having a ing clue about the facts.

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    All Texans know that not a single registered gun owner has psychological problems, and there's absolutely no possibility of any of these teachers going wonka and unloading a clip on their students.
    Think about it, the worse that can happen is a dozen dead kids, then the ordinance will be lifted... no big deal

    AHF just owned your dumb ass arguement.

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    Civilized society stepping forward . . .

    Hurray!

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    Civilized society stepping forward . . .

    Hurray!
    Thanks for your quality addition to this thread.

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    Wouldn't it be more likely that these gun-toting liberals (I mean, after all, they are teachers - probably members of the TEA too) get their guns taken away from them by a Republican student in a struggle? Do you want guns going off in the hallways of the schools where your kid is attending?

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