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    Are you a Democrat?
    If I say yes, will you love me in the morning?

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    "only thing i'm getting at is obamessiah's audacity at calling someone inexperienced."

    Court watchers, not neo-c*nt idealogues, have a consensus that Thomas is week, esp strong on ignoring established precedents.

    McBefuddled is experienced in what compared with HUSSEIN? with dubya?

    The system pukes weak candidates at us in the charade called democracy.
    I wonder if boutons is old enough to vote?

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    So you were against the nomination of Thomas to the Supreme Court.
    Not at all. Not then, not now. Have you read any of the opinions he wrote from the Supreme Court? He is an intelligent man who respects the cons ution. It was the liberals who kept lying about him and calling him a "Uncle Tom."

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    sorry. can't read chimp. i fell asleep during that class.
    You actually took that class? Wouldn't Ebonics have been more useful?

    Or is it now Obomics?

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    Obama is a racist.

    Leave Thomas alone!



    What's next? Telling Thomas and other Black Conservatives to quit acting White?

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    Why is this even a concern? Do you really think there is a chance Obama will nominate an entirely black cabinet?
    No, I think he will avoid such a possible scandal. I still think he will dispropotionally pick more placks than other races compared to the percentages who are qualified for the positions. I also qualified that by saying I feared he would pick those who were black rather than who were qualified. Qualification should come first, regardless of skin color.

    What is the double standard? As I said, it's likely that any President who nominated a cabinet composed entirely of a single race would be criticized for doing so. Do you disagree?
    No, I pointed it out myself that that would happen. I also pointed out that the media would likely make excuses for Obama whereas they would openly attack a white conservative or republican who picked all whites.

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    Obama will pluck every single one of his nominations out of the ACLU.

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    I agree. Whenever I see Blacks in positions of authority, I am concerned that they were chosen because they were Black rather than qualified.
    I think we all do. Affirmative action has done more harm to the black community than racism in some ways. Because of quotas, we cannot know if a person made certain position or jobs by merit, or by quotas.

    Would you go to a black surgeon for an operation if he was a product of affirmative action? Of course this information isn't readily available, so most smart people avoid black surgeons. I wonder what type of impact this has on jobs for black. It is a form of prejudice, but it isn't racism.

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    I think we all do. Affirmative action has done more harm to the black community than racism in some ways. Because of quotas, we cannot know if a person made certain position or jobs by merit, or by quotas.

    Would you go to a black surgeon for an operation if he was a product of affirmative action? Of course this information isn't readily available, so most smart people avoid black surgeons. I wonder what type of impact this has on jobs for black. It is a form of prejudice, but it isn't racism.
    Honestly, I presume that a person is qualified to hold a position, regardless of the color of his or her skin. As a professional, I certainly know that there are a significant number of whites in my field who were able to go to professional school because they come from privileged backgrounds, but who are decidedly less qualified than many blacks who are in the field. I think that assuming a lack of qualification based on skin color is absolutely absurd.

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    Just ask for an Asian Doctor. Problem solved.

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    so most smart people avoid black surgeons.
    wow.....just wow.

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    I think we all do.
    you need a new sarcasm detector

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    "only thing i'm getting at is obamessiah's audacity at calling someone inexperienced."
    I agree with that statement. What is Obama experienced at besides being a community activist... organizer...

    Court watchers, not neo-c*nt idealogues, have a consensus that Thomas is week, esp strong on ignoring established precedents.
    He's a quiet man and going against establish precedent if completely proper for members of the Supreme Court. Shows he has a mind of his own.

    McBefuddled is experienced in what compared with HUSSEIN? with dubya?
    A great deal actually.

    He stayed in the Navy after being released from the war. He became commanding officer of a training squadron stationed in Florida. He turned around an undistinguished unit and won the squadron its first Meritorious Unit Commendation. He served as the Navy's liaison to the U.S. Senate. He became an Admiral while in the Navy before becoming a public servant. That is a position that requires executive skills. Obama has no executive experience.

    The system pukes weak candidates at us in the charade called democracy.
    McCain is not a weak candidate. He far outshines Obama. Obama just has forces of stupidity, racial guilt from liberals, etc. on his side. He has no qualifications for the most important executive position in the world.

    That said, I repeat that I don't like McCain because he is a RINO. I would vote for him against Obama as the lesser of two evils if he were a democrat, but not as a republican. I'll still likely vote for Bob Barr.

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    That's what I wanted you to believe.
    Your talents are wasted--head for a new career in make-up at a Hollywood studio

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    No, I think he will avoid such a possible scandal.
    Do you think he would nominate an entirely black cabinet if there were no chance at a "scandal"?


    No, I pointed it out myself that that would happen. I also pointed out that the media would likely make excuses for Obama whereas they would openly attack a white conservative or republican who picked all whites.
    I still don't see a double standard here. In either situation you would have discussion, debate and controversy. And in either situation you would have some defending the President and some criticizing the President.
    Last edited by Spurminator; 08-18-2008 at 03:31 PM.

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    Not at all. Not then, not now.
    So you are for giving less qualified and less experienced minorities important government positions.

    Ok.

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    I still don't see a double standard here. In either situation you would have discussion, debate and controversy. And in either situation you would have some defending the President and some condemning the President.
    Come on, spurminator -- everyone knows that there would be no skepticism about the qualifications of the individuals appointed to an all-white cabinet; of course those individuals would be qualified. After all, that's why you don't see people lining up to go to black surgeons!!

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    Cliff Huxtable is turning over in his grave right now.

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    I mean I've seen some stretches for scare tactics created by the opposition to Presidential candidates but "He's going to nominate a disproportionately black cabinet" is ridiculous on more levels than anything I can remember. You're better off sticking with the "Obama is the Antichrist" allusions.

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    I agree. Whenever I see Blacks in positions of authority, I am concerned that they were chosen because they were Black rather than qualified.
    I think we all do. Affirmative action has done more harm to the black community than racism in some ways. Because of quotas, we cannot know if a person made certain position or jobs by merit, or by quotas.

    Would you go to a black surgeon for an operation if he was a product of affirmative action? Of course this information isn't readily available, so most smart people avoid black surgeons. I wonder what type of impact this has on jobs for black. It is a form of prejudice, but it isn't racism.
    (case in point)

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    Would you go to a black surgeon for an operation if he was a product of affirmative action? Of course this information isn't readily available, so most smart people avoid black surgeons. I wonder what type of impact this has on jobs for black. It is a form of prejudice, but it isn't racism.
    Not quite on the level of your "Karma" comment, but definitely high on the list of your egregious hits.

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    I mean I've seen some stretches for scare tactics created by the opposition to Presidential candidates but "He's going to nominate a disproportionately black cabinet" is ridiculous on more levels than anything I can remember. You're better off sticking with the "Obama is the Antichrist" allusions.
    I'm still honestly curious to know who might have expressed some concern that Obama might create an "all black" administration. To this point, such a concern seems to be actually confined to posters in this thread; I haven't been able to locate evidence that anyone with a column or a radio show has actually had the courage to express concern about such a possibility.

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    I'm still honestly curious to know who might have expressed some concern that Obama might create an "all black" administration. To this point, such a concern seems to be actually confined to posters in this thread; I haven't been able to locate evidence that anyone with a column or a radio show has actually had the courage to express concern about such a possibility.
    you're looking in the wrong place. you need to find the people who are not lined up for "black surgery".

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    Cliff Huxtable is turning over in his grave right now.
    Cliff Huxtable only got into Hillman because he was Black.

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    True, but posting it without the blue had a funnier outcome.

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