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At least Manu only played 20 minutes. 40 minutes for Scola? Ouch. Wonder what was up with that?
why exactly didn't Scola become a Spur or rather, why did the Spurs give up on him?
At least Manu only played 20 minutes. 40 minutes for Scola? Ouch. Wonder what was up with that?
First of all, he's not averaging 32. Once again you're too stupid to do the most basic research on anything. Secondly, it's pretty lame how you hate on every Argentina player now instead of just Manu. I'm guessing if France was in the tournament you would know every Tony Parker statistic.
you are understand that the Scola trade cost us a championship this year?!?! dont be Buford es!
You forget, in the same off-season we signed Bonner for a 3 year contract and extended Vaughns contract.
Some still defend the FO because IT WAS NOT AN FO DECISION. Clearly, it was a lux tax imperative which means the OWNERSHIP made the decision, not the FO. Why is that so hard to understand?
Why the do so many of you blame RC for a decision that was made by Holt et al???
If we had the inside info like the Rockets, then we would have never signed these two underachievers and would never had a Lux Tax problem.
It was a mistake to have signed Butler, however we compounded that mistake by trying to correct it by not signing Scola. An idiotic move!
Watch the Argentia-Russia game and you'll see how Scola consistently hits the midrange jumper. Just imagine that kind of consistency play beside Tim Duncan! DAMN! SUCH A WASTE!
Dude, you must realize that 85% of the people on this board will a. blindly defend every front office move citing the 4 championship rings and b. argue in favour of whatever timvp says.
What's entertaining is when points a and b conflict with each other and you have negative IQ idiots like T Park swaying to and fro with their opinions without even knowing it...priceless.
I think he asked to play a lot, he is young and he can handle the minutes, and he is the kind of player that usually only gets better the more he plays.
Scola is the shiznit. dammit!!!
The Spurs organization is a the top of its class, however to win championships you've got to have top notch razor edged decision making that runs rings around the other F.O. out there. It's not enough to have average F.O. decision making.
What makes it worse is that the Rockets organization is making a career of embarrassing us. Other teams like the Lakers and Hornets are running rings around us by signing great talent for next to nothing. Meanwhile, we continue to bask is the past glory of signing Michael Finley!
The Spurs drafting have been stellar, but we'll still have to wait if that is still true with the likes of Mahinmi and Hill.
BTW... I think Pop should retire... he's tired and doesn't want to make the effort to develop players. I'll take Buldenhozer or Thibodeau as a replacement.
yes all those championships the rockets have on us the last few years is really embarrasing!
ignorant fool...Oberto 28 points Final World Champion 2.002. with his ACB team Pamesa in 2005, too.
The same people who still bash Scola will be the ones in a few months saying "It's only December, It's only February."
And our offense will still be .
----> I saw a video on youtube with Popovich saying that Manu have turned a great player once he landed on the NBA, thats so stupid, Manu was a great player before NBA, Scola is too, spurs managers have a really big problem judgin international talent, everybody in the world can see that Scola is a good player and here on Spurstalk i saw people asking if Scola can play basketball at all, it is just basketball like Manu said. Sorry for my bad english.
Scolaaaaa thread !!!!!
No Olympic game is meaningless. It's the Olympics, it's about honor also so you try to win everything.
What I say above plus, this team needs more playing time to get there, they are improving every game.
So you also speak bs here too?
manu averages 19,6 not 32 points, get your facts straight, "geek".
As far as I know,and it's probably what happened,The Spurs FO and Pop never thought Scola's game was gonna translate well to the NBA as it did,they probably thought that He could become a second coming Oberto at the most. They trully understimated him,like they usually do with Euros or Latinos(not NBA proven),It happened to Manu too,he was 4 years in Europe waiting on the Spurs to bring him onboard,and the spurs probably could've won at least 1 more le from 99 to 03,or at least they could've have a better chance to win it.but they didn't.
happens...I guess.
Dude... since when is 30 points less than 28 points?
Keep searching!
Manu average 20 points in NBA last year and 20 points in Olympics.
Last edited by Kill_Bill_Pana; 08-19-2008 at 02:55 PM.
It should be noted that NO other NBA teams projected him to be this good. Otherwise, the Spurs would have seen a better offer than cap space and a 2nd rounder. Even the Rockets could have had him a year earlier at a better price.
It's not an excuse, but the Spurs certainly weren't alone.
Scola was always consider second best player on Argentina team. Always he was consider better than Nocioni. So what you say is not true.
The Spurs were never offered anything better, so it is true.
The proof is in the pudding.
If any other NBA team thought he was going to be this effective, they would have topped the Rockets lowball offer. , if the Rockets knew he was going to be this effective, they would have offered a 1st rounder a year earlier and added him then.
I'm not saying that Scola isn't any good now, but to deny that there were major doubts around the NBA about his game before he joined the league is revisionist history.
The problem with armchair wannabe general managers is they can say or do anything they want. That's why this forum has a million trade suggestions that have Bonner and Vaughn leaving while a talented starter who averages 15 ppg and plays tenacious D magically appears on the new imaginary roster. The only gripe most people here can level against the FO is that they fall short of utopian perfection. That's 100% true. They didn't get Maggette (nobody offering the MLE did), they didn't get JR Smith (Denver gave away Camby to clear cap room so they could match any offer), etc.
Being a GM in the real world involves serious risk analysis-- i.e., gambling-- and no one wins every gamble. The Lakers traded Caron Butler for Kwame Brown-- good move, in retrospect? No way, but then they were smart enough to recover by getting Pau with Kwame's expiring contract. Kobe and many Laker fans came out and criticized their FO for not getting Kidd. Now, Kidd is declining as fast as Bynum is developing, and their FO looks a lot smarter than their fans. Before last year, Boston fans routinely said Ainge was a moron, and Pierce was a whiny, spoiled star who wasn't a winner, etc., etc. Now the fans of both teams will enthusiastically argue that their FOs are the best in the league. You won't see the fans of any other team that has won multiple recent les and played in the conference finals last year complain about their FOs.... why? because, aside from the Spurs, no other team matching that description even exists.
some poster posted that not me
I do not have time to research every stat some poster post here
dude he is past his prime
he will not get better he is what he is
it doesn't work like that dude.
1-The spurs were the ones following him for years,and keeping up with his stats and overall game. The spurs didn't have to wait until a team would offer a 1st round pick and money for a guy who wasn't followed and scouted in the past,like the spurs did with scola,to realize how good he was.
2-Now what the Rockets did was steal Luis from the Spurs,cose their GM knew that even eating Butler's contract,Scola was worthy of that.
See now?It was a FO up all the way,plain and simple.
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