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Sabre Rattling.
Russia WILL NOT attack NATO.
Looks like our troops in Europe may have a little work cut out for them.
Russia warns of response to US missile shield
Aug 20 01:42 PM US/Eastern
MOSCOW (AP) - Russia says its response to the further development of a U.S. missile shield in Poland will go beyond diplomacy.
Russia's Foreign Ministry issued a statement saying the U.S. missile shield plans are clearly aimed at weakening Russia.
The U.S. says the missile defense system is aimed at protecting the U.S. and Europe from future attacks from states like Iran.
The United States and Poland signed a deal Wednesday to place a U.S. missile defense base just 115 miles from Russia's westernmost fringe.
THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.
WARSAW, Poland (AP)—Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and her Polish counterpart signed a deal Wednesday to build a U.S. missile defense base in Poland, an agreement that prompted an infuriated Russia to warn of a possible attack against the former Soviet satellite.
Rice dismissed blustery comments from Russian leaders who say Warsaw's hosting of 10 U.S. interceptor missiles just 115 miles from Russia's westernmost frontier opens the country up to attack.
Such comments "border on the bizarre frankly," Rice said, speaking to reporters traveling with her in Warsaw.
"When you threaten Poland, you perhaps forget that it is not 1988," Rice said. "It's 2008 and the United States has a ... firm treaty guarantee to defend Poland's territory as if it was the territory of the United States. So it's probably not wise to throw these threats around."
The deal, which Washington sought as a way of defending the U.S. and Europe from a hypothetical threat of long-distance missiles from Iran, has strained relations between Moscow and the West. Those ties were already troubled by Russia's invasion of its former Soviet neighbor, U.S. ally Georgia, earlier this month.
Speaking to reporters traveling with her, Rice said, "the Russians are losing their credibility."
Rice and Polish Foreign Minister Radek Sikorski signed the deal Wednesday morning.
"It is an agreement which will help us to respond to the threats of the 21st century," she said afterward.
Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk said the agreement came after tough but friendly negotiations.
"We have achieved our main goals, which means that our country and the United States will be more secure," he said.
After Warsaw and Washington announced the agreement on the deal last week, top Russian Gen. Anatoly Nogovitsyn warned that Poland is risking attack, and possibly a nuclear one, by deploying the American missile defense system, Russia's Interfax news agency reported.
Poles have been shaken by the threats, but NATO Secretary General Jaap de Hoop dismissed them Tuesday as "pathetic rhetoric."
"It is unhelpful and it leads nowhere," he told reporters at a NATO meeting in Brussels, Belgium.
Many Poles consider the agreement a form of protection at a time when Russia's invasion of Georgia has generated alarm throughout Eastern Europe. Poland is a member of the European Union and NATO, and the deal is expected to deepen its military partnership with Washington.
Polish President Lech Kaczynski also expressed "great satisfaction" at the outcome of the long months of negotiations.
Poland and the United States spent a year and a half negotiating, and talks recently had snagged on Poland's demands that the U.S. bolster Polish security with Patriot missiles in exchange for hosting the missile defense base.
Washington agreed to do so last week, as Poland invoked the Georgia conflict to strengthen its case.
The Patriots are meant to protect Poland from short-range missiles from neighbors—such as Russia.
The U.S. already has reached an agreement with the government in Prague to place the second component of the missile defense shield—a radar tracking system—in the Czech Republic, Poland's southwestern neighbor and another formerly communist country.
Approval is still needed the Czech and Polish parliaments.
No date has been set for the Polish parliament to consider the agreement, but it should face no difficulties in Warsaw, where it enjoys the support of the largest opposition party as well as the government.
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Sabre Rattling.
Russia WILL NOT attack NATO.
US stationing "defensive" missiles in Poland, etc is poking the bear.
Well, being Polish myself, I don't mind USA's involvement. Considering after 911 Poland was one of the first coaltion country to offer help and resources. I'm not quite sure what Russia is doing though.....
Where's your outrage over Russia poking the bear going into Georgia?
Oh yeah, you hate America...
They're banking some coin because of the rise in the world oil market (they have huge reserves). Couple that with an ex-KGBer in Putin who wants to take Russia back to her glory days of the USSR at the height of the Cold War, and you get what you're seeing.
While this is by no means my discussion, let me just say cons/repubs throwing out the "so-and-so hates America" card is the most tired and ridiculous act out there in the usual left vs. right discussions.
The Russia/Georgia thingy is extremely complicated and opaque, to thinking, reasoning people, which obviously excludes less, mindless twerps like Aggie. Anyway, boutons doesn't give a about it because boutons, nor America, nor Europe, can do about it. And where's the right-wing outrage now that Iraq war was mounted by dubya and head on completely false, aka lying, pretenses? Anyway, Iraq and Afghanistan are infinitely more important and urgent than Russia/Georgia. dubya and his cowboy neo-c*nts may have repeated what Poppy did with the Iraqi marsh Arabs, encourage them to rise up against Saddam, then not help them as Saddam slaughtered them and drained the marshes. It sounds like dubya may have led the Georgians along, as if he would help defend Georgia if the going go tough. Russia/Georgia is another botched geo-political diplomatic failure by dubya and his wonderfully incompetent team.
I agree for the most part but boutons really hates America.
I mean really. No joke.
I dissent against dubya and his accomplices and ups, and so I REALLY hate America. GO ALL Y'ALL
Yeah. Russia is going to attack Poland. That's freaking rich.
They attack Poland, and suddenly the UK, Germany, Italy, and basically every European power is going to tell them to get the out of Europe.
This is a tactical decision by the United States. They want to provoke Russia to such threats, so that they are suddenly legitimized for being there by the rest of the continent.
No European country is going to stand by while their neighbors are invaded. It would be the world minus a few dissenting countries against the former Union.
This is a bad situation for Russia. There is absolutely no way they can come out of this looking good. Straining their relations with Europe and the U.S. only harms their economic growth.
putin and bush have a deal, you make noise until my party wins the election.
You forget that Europe is in no position to strain their relationships with Russia, considering they provide almost half of all the gas consumed in Europe. There's a reason that other than the Frenchie president, you haven't really heard much from other Euro countries when the Georgia went down.
from wikipedia
Former Soviet countries
Belarus had 81 single warhead missiles stationed on its territory after the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991. They were all transferred to Russia by 1996. Belarus has signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.[54]
Kazakhstan inherited 1,400 nuclear weapons from the Soviet Union, and transferred them all to Russia by 1995. Kazakhstan has signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.[55]
Ukraine has signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Ukraine inherited about 5,000 nuclear weapons when it became independent from the USSR in 1991, making its nuclear arsenal the third-largest in the world.[56] By 1996, Ukraine had voluntarily disposed of all nuclear weapons within its territory, transferring them to Russia.[57]
STUPID, STUPID, STUPID.
How would you like Russia putting missiles in Cuba? The Europeans and NATO could cause problems for Russia if they presented a united front, but the end result would be that there would no longer be missiles in Poland, or much of Poland for that matter...This is a bad situation for Russia. There is absolutely no way they can come out of this looking good. Straining their relations with Europe and the U.S. only harms their economic growth.
Very unlikely considering that Russia is royally screwing Cheney and his oil buddies...
It's these defense alliances that started WW1 and WW2...Perhaps it is Condi who shouldn't be throwing around threats unless she's willing to fry us all for Poland...She said: "The Russians are losing their credibility. When you threaten Poland, you perhaps forget that it is not 1988. It's 2008 and the United States has a firm treaty guarantee to defend Poland's territory. So it's probably not wise to throw these threats around."
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