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77-68 Argentina
Thank you.Maybe.
Your good people angel, and from what little I talked to Bo in May, he is too. Good luck
77-68 Argentina
How sweet
There's NO WAY we can beat this US team. Not only because of the names but also because of the way they are playing.
This is not the old "we can beat all teams without scouting" US team. They understood they needed to spend some resources on studying FIBA rules, officiating and opponents strategy.
Argentina is not winning this game unless a catastrophe occurs.
US team is just TOO good. It's sort of Michael Phelpy or Usain Bolty. Just too good.
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My forecast :
US : 91
AR : 80
As the game gets closer, I just don't know how I'm supposed to root for Kobe over Ginobili. I can't stand Kobe and he's not even a product of American basketball. He should be playing for the Italian national team.
Maybe if Kobe gets arrested or something and misses the game, then it'll be possible for me to root for the US. Otherwise, I'll have to be a neutral observer.
NBA fans pretty much don't even want the NBA players playing in the Olympics...and after the players win gold they will likely lose the desire to keep playing basketball year round.
You see, in my country, playing in the Olympics for basketball players isn't a doorway to being declared a National Hero and becoming wealthy from endorsements...in my country, playing on the Olympic basketball team is a thankless job, that pays no money, garners no respect, no additional fame, and doesn't accomplish anything other than putting a gold medal on your chest.
In my country, playing for the National Basketball team doesn't even get many Americans to root for you...proof in this thread.
Now can you honestly tell me the same is true for Manu and the guys on Team Argentina? Of if they were Poland?
No prestige, no respect, and damn sure no money...is that the way it works in Poland and Argentina with their Olympic Basketball players?
Tell me again who is doing this more for material(and otherwise) gain? Truely, all the NBA players are getting out of this is a gold medal...and literally nothing else. Not even good will from their countrymen...
This is pretty damn true. The US players don't really get anything out of playing in the Olympics. The US media not-so-secretly hopes they lose so that everyone can talk about the failure for a couple weeks non-stop. Basically, the US players are in a lose lose situation. If they win, they were supposed to win. If they lose, they are a group of conceited ballas who disgraced Americans because they didn't have any heart.
A team like Argentina might not specifically be playing for money but that is the end result. If Argentina never busted onto the international scene, players like Nocioni, Herrmann and even Oberto would never have made it to the NBA and wouldn't be making the millions they are making. Argentina winning gold in 2004 probably earned the players in excess of $100 million.
But they could make more in Europe!
Sounds like you make the wrong choice every time.I voted for Bush in 2004, but I guess that only made up for my rooting for Argentina then, eh?
I won't vote for George Bush again.
And don't you ever step foot in a WalMart again. You do realize that Kobe/Boozer/Jkidd are just the handicap, right? Can you imagine if those 3 weren't on the team. They'd be winning games by 50 and I'm not even kidding.
The fact that they are dominating with that chucker tossing up stupid 3 after stupid 3 and getting his overrated defense lit up shows you just how special the players on this team are.
Neutral my ass!
Kind of fail. China is one of the biggest markets for the NBA (if not the biggest). I'm sure Stern really wanted a Team USA like this one playing in Beijing, and Team USA players would love to see their popularity skyrocket in that country.
Of course, the same can be said about the members of Team Argentina. The point is: if you want to be tendencious and su ious, you'll surely find a way to.
Dammit! Timvp said something nice while I was typing up a talking post. I hate it when that happens.
For the record timvp, my misquote post was in response to your stance that you don't know who to root for.
Also LJ, do you really want the Manu lovers having more ammunition against Tony Parker? Can you ing see it now? "Manu led the NT to an upset over the Redeem team - I would drink his piss anyday!".
The Argies need an ego check in the worst way. The World is counting on it.
i wanna see Bryant and Manu have a Dominique/Bird moment.
thats all i want.
an argentinian win would be heart stopping.
That doesn't mean the players want to do it.
They truly don't give a about that...they already get paid and are famous.and Team USA players would love to see their popularity skyrocket in that country.
It is definitely charity for them to do it...which is why so many of the best players decline the chance...like they did in 04.
Of course, the same can be said about the members of Team Argentina. The point is: if you want to be tendencious and su ious, you'll surely find a way to.
I assure you, if you think the Americans get as much benfit from doing this as the Argies do, you are entirely wrong.
The primary reason for doing this is National Prestige within ones own country.
Why don't you conduct a poll and see how many Argies are rooting for Team USA VS how many Americans are rooting for Team Argentina...
Then tell me the benefit is the same.
If you get one Argie rooting for Team USA I will be in shock..
This is why I personally get irate over international posters generalizing my country....we Americans definitely aren't all the same...I remain unconvinced that is true of other posters...except for maybe the French.
Why? What does that actually mean to the players?
Are you telling me when you see Manu take Kobe off the dribble and dunk it on his azz, you are going to be saying "Dammit Kobe, you should have blocked that!"
I know I'll be celebrating each time Manu owns Kobe. I can't lie and say I have the ability to suddenly root for Kobe and against Manu.
Eh, hardcore Manu Fan is delusional anyways. An embarrassment or a gold medal won't change that
basically when it comes to voting for the all star selections. these players will get the "Yao Ming" treatment from China.
a small dividend
me too. i honestly believe this means a whole lot more to Argentina fans than US fans. US fans have the NFL,MLB,NHl,NBA,MMA all these variety of sports to follow and athletes to root for that the basketball olympics means very little to the normal US citizen.
u never see a riot break out on behalf of US fans when we lose. but yet it happens almost reguarly in other countries because thats what they live to see and love. years of dedication for this one moment for many international athletes. US athletes have other endeavors that they live for. an olympic gold medal is just another accomplishment. for the argentinians, thats all there is.
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