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Show me where she's aided in the destruction of personal property and I'll answer that for you.
You can verify without charging money.
Irony?
Show me where she's aided in the destruction of personal property and I'll answer that for you.
That's vandalism.
If this crazy drew pictures of a little girl getting raped on my door, yeah I'd call the cops, but if she wants to write stories about it and sell them to willing readers how can you throw her in jail for that?
True, but then again, putting it out there may help other people cope with the abuse they've experienced.
You're right but if she sets up a new site she will be. That's what probation is.
Jail, probation, $500 fine, whatever. It's crap.
Because it's not black and white. There's a whole lot of gray and the sooner you admit and or understand that the sooner you will realize why she no longer has a computer.
I didn't realize the women's Web site was property not owned by her, and in fact, owned by other people and/or the government.
Show me where a tagger who has been commissioned to do artwork for a business has been arrested.
Weak argument.
Well, she'll have to stick to pen and paper to get her therapy.
Why should she?
Now you're twisting this to fit your argument.
Freedom of speech is freedom of speech, correct?
If you can apply it to one thing you can apply it to another.
Instead of trying to fit a argument admit that it's not always cut and dry and that not every situation can be handled the same way.
Taggers aren't punished for obscenity. It's a horrible argument. A teenager painting bunny rabbits on the side of a building is going to be punished the same as a teenager who sprays " " on it.
We're talking about free speech, you're talking about vandalism.
No, I'm not twisting my argument.
Do taggers get arrested or fined for their work, or for their work on other people's property? Question?
I just used graphic words because 10/10 it's going to piss someone off. Not a cute little bunny.
Again, tagging anything is... FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
LOL
The fundamental right here is the freedom of speech. Correct?
What does doing work have to do with the fundamental right?
It's vandalism. Your metaphor is irrelevant. Next argument.
Me tagging my notebook is freedom of speech.
Me tagging your front door is vandalism. Again, they're not arrested for their work, they're arrested for their outlet (which isn't theirs to alter).
Well because, like you said, if she starts another website featuring those stories she gets in trouble.
I have no problem with her writing those stories as some type of therapy. But it's when she starts making money off of it and letting god knows who view those stories that I have a problem with it.
No, it's fundamentally the same thing. One just pisses people off more.
How are you not seeing that?
It's vandalism, yes. Which is my point.
There needs to be situations where "freedom of speech" can no longer be the excuse.
You can scream "fire" in your own house. You can't scream "fire" in a crowded theater.
Buddy, you need to read this site because I think you've managed to use just about every one of these in this thread. It's almost impressive.
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/
EXACTLY!
It's not BLACK AND WHITE.
It's a whole lotta GRAY.
Again, show me the person commissioned to tag a wall that has been arrested.
Okayyyy, how does that apply to this case? With tagging, there is a crime being committed with the expression.
What crime is being committed in this author's case?
Would somebody please cue FWD?
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