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    according to NIST, it was a small fire. Thermite doesn't make loud noises.
    NIST did not say it was a small fire. Thermite doesn't work sideways.

    Also, NIST never studied column # 79, so basically, their theory is bull .
    Did you study column #79? No? Then by your definition, any theory you come up with is bull .

    Way to kick your own ass.

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    Jew.

    You blame the jew.

    At least in that post you did. You'll pull something else out of your ass any second now.

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    Jew.

    You blame the jew.

    At least in that post you did. You'll pull something else out of your ass any second now.
    Clay Shaw or Larry Craig?

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    NIST did not say it was a small fire. Thermite doesn't work sideways.

    Did you study column #79? No? Then by your definition, any theory you come up with is bull .

    Way to kick your own ass.
    if you tip thermite 90 degrees, it will work sideways.

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    if you tip thermite 90 degrees, it will work sideways.
    Nope, it will always work in the direction of gravity.

    You need to change your screen name. Gallileo would never make such a stupid mistake regarding gravity.

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    Nope, it will always work in the direction of gravity.

    You need to change your screen name. Gallileo would never make such a stupid mistake regarding gravity.
    not in WTC 7. Things are different in WTC 7.

    WTC 7 fall down.

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    not in WTC 7. Things are different in WTC 7.

    WTC 7 fall down.
    You're a ing idiot.

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    You're a ing idiot.
    Dr. Ivins took out WTC 7, then dropped off the anthrax at the local post.

    He's a mad scientist.

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    I can only conclude that you are mentally ill.

    In addition to being a ing idiot.

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    I can only conclude that you are mentally ill.

    In addition to being a ing idiot.
    global warming heated column # 79, expanding it, and WTC 7 fall down.

    Gore did it!

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    Yep, you're insane.

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    Someone could have a paper towel drenched in mecos, bind it between hardcover, and label it "Commission Report" and I really do think ChumpDumper would feel even more self righteous about his 9/11 takes.

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    Say CBF, what do you think really happened to WTC 7?

    And today's report was not a commission report.

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    Someone could have a paper towel drenched in mecos, bind it between hardcover, and label it "Commission Report" and I really do think ChumpDumper would feel even more self righteous about the scientifically researched 9/11 takes which are the only theories to list evidence, computer modeling, and plausible explanations as to what happened. Or even any one of those three.
    Fixed that for you.

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    After 7 years the FEDS say friendly fire brought down WTC7...anyone surprised?

    Feds: Fire took down building next to twin towers By DEVLIN BARRETT

    Federal investigators said Thursday they have solved a mystery of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks: the collapse of World Trade Center building 7, a source of long-running conspiracy theories.

    The 47-story trapezoid-shaped building sat north of the World Trade Center towers, across Vesey Street in lower Manhattan in New York. On Sept. 11, it was set on fire by falling debris from the burning towers, but skeptics long have argued that fire and debris alone should not have brought down such a big steel-and-concrete structure.

    Scientists with the National Ins ute of Standards and Technology say their three-year investigation of the collapse determined the demise of WTC 7 was actually the first time in the world a fire caused the total failure of a modern skyscraper.

    "The reason for the collapse of World Trade Center 7 is no longer a mystery," said Dr. Shyam Sunder, the lead investigator on the NIST team
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    Popular Mechanics still has a debunking story on their Web site, to wit, there was so much damage to the south face of WTC7 (they alone saw secret photos they could not share with anyone else), that it was obvious that's why it fell down. Of course, today the NIST report says damage from debris had nothing to do with it. Fires from fuel tanks had nothing to do with it, as FEMA postulated. Spanning a power substation had nothing to do with it. Just regular ol' office fires made 7 fall!

    Wanna know something cute? Several years ago Popular Mechanics quoted Shyam Sunder to support their "south face damage" hypothesis. And today's NIST briefing, with a different story was told by, you guessed it, Shyam Sunder!

    BTW, NIST told us a few years ago that there was only enough fuel from furnishings in WTC7 offices to burn for 20 minutes in a given area. So the fire moved from one area to another as it ran out of fuel. It would've been hampered by doors and walls...

    That same NIST is now saying that these 'uncontrolled fires' were enough to weaken connections between floors and beams and voila, just like dominoes, every single column, both perimeter and core, (there were 81 I think) over every single floor (there were 47 floors) failed virtually all at once in such a way as to produce a totally symmetric, totally rapid (7 seconds) collapse into a neat little pile that didn't even scar the buildings on either side. Those buildings, next door, had no damage from WTC Towers collapsing, and wow, no damage from WTC7 collapsing either.

    Just saying........

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    Those buildings, next door, had no damage from WTC Towers collapsing, and wow, no damage from WTC7 collapsing either.
    You are telling an outright, unmitigated, unambiguous, bald-faced lie. You derail any intelligent argument you might have by lying so obviously and completely.

    Just saying.....

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    dont listen to chumpdumpers "explain to me" stint.

    galileo obviously is not right, but CD you can look it up if you really seek to know the Truth.

    i dont got time to debate you on the internet

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    Here is a map of the WTC complex and surrounding buildings:



    Here is are pictures of the Verizon building after 9/11:





    Verizon spent over $300 million to restore the building.

    Here is a picture of 30 West Broadway after 9/11:



    This building had to be demolished and the site is in the process of being rebuilt.

    Now dan, can you admit you told a flat out lie in the above post when you said the buildings next door had no damage?

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    dont listen to chumpdumpers "explain to me" stint.

    galileo obviously is not right, but CD you can look it up if you really seek to know the Truth.

    i dont got time to debate you on the internet
    Wow, you are really dedicated to the twoof.

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    Oh look, another picture of the Verizon Building. This one has WTC 7 still burning in the background. Any guesses as to what caused the damage, dan?



    Here's some more pictures of the Verizon Building:





    Now what were you saying about no damage, dan?

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    This is the south side of the Verizon Building. Dan, what caused all this damage?



    That is, provided you actually see any damage of course.

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    So um... how come Building 6 remained standing? You do know it stood between the north tower and building 7, right? Before you get to Vesey Street? Clearly you live and worked there to completely back up the 'official' version of what really happened. Right?

    Thanks for playing....

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    WTC6, heavily damaged, but still standing...

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    So um... how come Building 6 remained standing?
    Different construction. Nonetheless, it suffered several partial collapses as it burned. Another great example of the damage fire can do.



    But of course that must look like no damage at all to you.

    Thanks for playing....
    Thanks for lying and trying to change the subject, liar.

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    Now dan, can you admit you told a flat out lie in the above post when you said the buildings next door to WTC 7 had no damage?

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