....because the rest of the "San Antonio Spurs" forum of SpursTalk.com has raised its level of insanity and stupidity to 9 out of 10 (up from its typical offseason level of 7 out of 10).
As of this typing, the most active threads indicate that:
-Manu Ginobili, who was just voted the #6 Spur of all time, and will one day have his number 20 hanging in the rafters, should be traded immediately
-A poll that indicates that 50% of Spurstalk posters believe that R.C. Buford should resign (apparently because an NBA championship and a berth in the Western Conference Finals isn't successful enough over the last two years)
-Anyone who doesn't support the USA Basketball team with 110% of their cheering is apparently about the same as a terrorist
-Players proudly representing their home country (unless that country is the United States) is the worst thing since unsliced bread
-Luis Scola is the best thing since sliced bread (and apparently, based on what I'm reading, this guy is as good as Michael Jordan and Wilt Chamberlain combined...which I think places him as the 2nd greatest basketball player of all time, slightly ahead of James White and slightly behind James Gist)
So, with all this chaos going on in the outside world, you can use this thread to shelter yourself for a while. Only well thought-out, well reasoned, intelligent posts here please. If you're tempted to post something that doesn't fit the above description, slowly back away and return to the rest of the forum, where that sort of behavior is tolerated.
Last edited by lurker23; 08-22-2008 at 09:23 PM.
I'll start things off by simply posting Manu's season averages from last year:
31.0 MPG, 46% FG, 40.1% 3PT-FG, 86.0% FT, 4.8 RPG, 4.5 APG, 1.5 SPG, 2.70 TO per game, and 19.5 PPG
This included career highs in MPG, 3PT%, FT%, RPG, APG, and PPG
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/emanue...eer_stats.html
I understand fan's worries about his injuries, but how can anyone in their right mind think that Manu is declining?
There have been a series of underwhelming acquisitions and resignings this off-season...from paying Mason $4M/yr to drafting Hill to re-upping Finley.
Successes, and I use that as a relative term, include resigning Kurt Thomas and drafting James Gist (though letting him play in Europe may have been a gaffe).
They let go of Barry and brought in Mason. Udoka should be better, but we might see some decline w/ Bowen. Hill will be as much of a factor as Washington and Stoudamire were for the Spurs last year. Thomas should be more comfortable in the system but is a year older (slower). And Finley is...well Finley.
All in all, I'd say the Spurs played a "zero sum" game with this off-season.
But, having said that...the Spurs will still be in contention for the NBA le provided Tim, Tony, and Manu can stay healthy for most of the year (especially in the post-season).
Good post, Lurker23.
I am not delusional. I didn't pick the Spurs to win last season and I don't think they have a shot to win this season if they play defensively the way they have the past two seasons. Team defense, or go fishing. (See Boston)
Voted on Spurstalk by posters who I suspect are very young/recent to the franchise. Ginobili understood the risks taken by competing and he's a fair guy. He knows the NBA is a business and he messed up in accordance with his employer's best interest.
Sometimes change is necessary. Notice how Byron Scott was fired after leading the Nets to 2 back to back Finals appearances. Personally I hate the "what have you done for me lately" mentality but you also can't rely on previous successes to justify current failures. The recent draft picks have been a nightmare. Parker and Ginobili have been good for us but they seem to have been anomalies.-A poll that indicates that 50% of Spurstalk posters believe that R.C. Buford should resign (apparently because an NBA championship and a berth in the Western Conference Finals isn't successful enough over the last two years)
It's not about cheering for the US, it's about not cheering against the US. Some people don't like the reasons certain players went (James, to be rich and do business in China) or the character of the players (Kobe, an accused rapist) and that is fine, but expressly hoping for their failure is different.-Anyone who doesn't support the USA Basketball team with 110% of their cheering is apparently about the same as a terrorist
I agree that it should be consistent. Can't speak for everyone though. Perhaps no NBA players should compete and it should be more like Team USA in baseball - all college players.-Players proudly representing their home country (unless that country is the United States) is the worst thing since unsliced bread
I think most people are just lamenting what could have been. See: above part on RC Buford-Luis Scola is the best thing since sliced bread (and apparently, based on what I'm reading, this guy is as good as Michael Jordan and Wilt Chamberlain combined...which I think places him as the 2nd greatest basketball player of all time, slightly ahead of James White and slightly behind James Gist)
I hope this was sufficient.So, with all this chaos going on in the outside world, you can use this thread to shelter yourself for a while. Only well thought-out, well reasoned, intelligent posts here please. If you're tempted to post something that doesn't fit the above description, slowly back away and return to the rest of the forum, where that sort of behavior is tolerated.
i r nawt undrstind mano ingery y he play on bad ankal if whin dat teem no pay moni 2 him
I am sure you are well aware, but this thread is going to be a lightning rod for all that idiocy.
I'm surprised it made 5 posts before someone did this...
Dayum. Just 69 posts and lurker23 is already calling the shots.
hill better be the real deal
you have no business around the word intelligent you frickin re .
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Thread derailed. Usual suspects.
annnnd it begins
I was just hoping for some decent ground rules for a single thread. While it's obvious that I don't care for what's going on out there in most of the rest of the forum, I can't do much about the 37,000+ other threads.
Now back on topic, everyone. It's a pretty open-ended topic, after all.
Spot on with everything, but I disagree with the national team part.
The worry is legit.
The Spurs are two pieces a way from a really strong le run.
1) A healthy team.
2) a 4th scoring option that can give a consistent 12 ppg. (Mason looks like he is as good as it gets in that department.)
mason is a good 4 option
what they need is a 3 star and manu was that player but now he is hurt again
thanks to stupidty
here we go again
You realize that is the worst example you could come up with to validate your theory
How so? Byron Scott is a good coach but the system just wasn't enough to get them past the best of the west. When Lawrence Frank came around, the Nets became energized.
The Nets were energized for a very short time, but are now an extremely mediocre team. The Spurs, using the same parameters, have been energized for over a decade. The Spurs' off-year-- losing in the WCF-- was at least as impressive (coming against better compe ion) as the Nets' best years, when they won the ECF.
The expectations are skewed, and I'm fine with that. I'd rather the Spurs be the victims of their own great success, and listen to fans call for the head of the GM and coach every time they don't win the NBA championship than root for a team like the Nets, whose fans every summer cross their fingers and hope to make the playoffs.
you don't talk to someone like that who has a bigger post count!
From here on out I will never be able to watch a Spurs game and not think about the possibility of Ginobili injuring his ankle. My feeling of awe whenever Ginobili does something spectacular will now be accompanied by a constant feeling of worry.
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