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don't tell this to mccain without giving him definitions to the words.The voting public agrees with you. It's this kind of that's sinking Obama.
Like the American people think this is an issue.
It screams desperation.
The voting public agrees with you. It's this kind of that's sinking Obama.
Like the American people think this is an issue.
It screams desperation.
don't tell this to mccain without giving him definitions to the words.The voting public agrees with you. It's this kind of that's sinking Obama.
Like the American people think this is an issue.
It screams desperation.
Why do some people on this forum think that there's a correlation between personal wealth and elitism?
I think the idea that any politician can identify with the "typical American" is as rediculous as the idea that there's a "typical American".
The elitist le is simply a subjective perception of a person. Polls suggested that Obama, while cool, had trouble connecting with the working-class public. McCain did the smart strategic thing and pounced.
My opinion is that no matter how many houses McCain owns or how much money he's worth, it's not going to alter the subjective perception that he's a "typical American" that can identify with the people....no matter how untrue it is.
The Repug slime bots slimed Kerry because was both rich and married richer.
The Repug slime bots slimed Gore because he had a big house.
Now that their old whitey is being exposed a $100M rich and ignorant of his own real estate, the right-wingers take the snooty high road.
The Repugs, the party of HAVES!, have made personal wealth slime-worthy, so McConfused deserves all the attacks about his houses.
Last edited by boutons_; 08-22-2008 at 11:47 PM.
Did his staff ever figure it out?
And all those attacks yielded what?
Don't be pissed at the right-wing for their attacks on the same issue being more effective....
Like you said before, it's all about perception. You may think that Obama has trouble relating to 'the little guy' but do you know that for sure? How do you know that? or are you just going by the sound bites and trash journalism that passing as reporting today?
What makes McCain any better? Because he was in a Vietnam prison camp for 5 years? Can a guy who can't remember how many homes he has or cars he drives really be any better at relating to 'the little guy'?
About the only thing the McCain camp has been better at is using attack ads to frame this issue, but Obama has managed to now effective turn this talking-point around and expose McCain....something that perhaps he should have done a long time ago...
If you take of the GOP colored glasses you can see how this can turn ugly for McCain really really fast...
When are the partisan fools on this forum and in this world going to realize that both sides slander each other? Guess what, blue or red, they are all humans, they are all corrupt, and none of them are in touch with the middle or lower class.
When you go out to vote pick a third party candidate that had to work hard to raise their money instead of just being able to stand in the spotlight and have a stream of cash flow into their propaganda machine like is true for gop/dem candidates.
I just think it's hilarious when one party says "well we don't act like this" when 20 years before they did the exact same thing. I hate to tell you this, but aligning yourself with one party does not make you morally superior. Your members are just as much of liars and jerks as your opponents.
You may or may not be right, but people have to believe in something because the alternative is to believe in nothing...maybe Obama is just like every other politician, but there is the possibility that maybe he's not....remember that although Clinton was a big business liberal he also didn't stand in the way of working toward a bipartisan effort to reduce government spending and put us on the road to our first fiscal surplus since Kennedy setting the pattern for the longest period of economic growth in U.S. history...you think that happened because Reagan, Bush41 or BushJr. ran record deficits?
Just wondering if Obama is gonna talk about his house being bought by a criminal. Also with the whole making 4 million hes more "in touch" I guess.
If he makes $4 million a year, he's not rich.
The perception that Obama has trouble relating is validated somewhat by the pollsters (specific questions related to the subject), but mostly by the voters themselves thus far. It's a fact that Obama faired much better in high-income areas with college-educated voters and struggled in lower-income, working class districts.
All that said, I don't think his position is irreversible. Like I said before, it's about perception...and perception can be changed.
I admit it could....certainly won't help. But it could also just be a blip on the radar.
What I can't believe is some of his people pointing out the "house" that he lived in for 5 1/2 years....rediculous.
..If he made 4 million last year, then why is his net worth only about 900k?
The libs got it all wrong. No one cares that John McCain isn't sure how many houses he has....his wife is rich. When they run the ad saying "he has seven", you start to understand why McCain would have trouble knowing exactly how many.
If the libs wanted to scare people away from McCain, they should simply point out that he doesn't even use email and isn't right for our changing world.
Just my two cents.
Is seven really that difficult a number to remember?When they run the ad saying "he has seven", you start to understand why McCain would have trouble knowing exactly how many.
No...but how long has it been "seven" for. What else do they own? How many cars does John McCain have? How much money does John McCain have?
I dont think anyone is really going to care.
you mean anyone other than the mccain campaign staff?
Well there you go.
Let's get real.
Aside from being mildly funny, I don't really care too much that he doesn't know off the top of his head.
It does sadden me that the Obama camp has stooped to the level of the Republicans, but it is to be expected eventually. Slimy distortions tend to work better than they should, and the McCain camp has certainly gone to town in that regard.
One look down this list shows the depths to wich the right-wing in this country is willing to collectively sink...
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...gs/pants-fire/
I don't know. Neither does McCain.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...p-o-meter/all/
That one is kinda funny too.
Nice site.
I mean, damn -- just ballpark the number then say you were a POW and tell them to get off your lawn.
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