View Poll Results: Spot Number 8 - Top 50 Spurs

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  • Alvin Robertson

    0 0%
  • Artis Gilmore

    1 1.12%
  • Avery Johnson

    2 2.25%
  • Billy Paultz

    0 0%
  • Bob Bass

    1 1.12%
  • Bob Hill

    0 0%
  • Brent Barry

    1 1.12%
  • Bruce Bowen

    22 24.72%
  • Chuck Person

    0 0%
  • Dale Ellis

    0 0%
  • Dave Corzine

    0 0%
  • Dennis Rodman

    1 1.12%
  • Doug Moe

    0 0%
  • Fabricio Oberto

    2 2.25%
  • Gene Banks

    0 0%
  • Hank Egan

    0 0%
  • James Silas

    8 8.99%
  • Johnny Moore

    0 0%
  • Larry Brown

    0 0%
  • Larry Kenon

    1 1.12%
  • Malik Rose

    0 0%
  • Mario Elie

    0 0%
  • Mark Olberding

    0 0%
  • Mike Budenholzer

    0 0%
  • Mike Gale

    0 0%
  • Mike Mitchell

    0 0%
  • Paul Griffin

    0 0%
  • Peter Holt

    1 1.12%
  • RC Buford

    2 2.25%
  • Red McCombs

    2 2.25%
  • Robert Horry

    1 1.12%
  • Robert McDermott

    0 0%
  • Rod Strickland

    0 0%
  • Sean Elliott

    42 47.19%
  • Stephen Jackson

    0 0%
  • Steve Kerr

    0 0%
  • Terry Cummings

    0 0%
  • Vinny Del Negro

    2 2.25%
  • Willie Anderson

    0 0%
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  1. #1
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    SpursTalk's Top 50 Spurs
    1. Tim Duncan
    2. David Robinson
    3. George Gervin
    4. Gregg Popovich
    5. Angelo Drossos
    6. Manu Ginobili
    7. Tony Parker

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    To pass the time until the start of preseason, let's see how SpursTalk.com ranks the Top 50 Spurs. Those eligible for the list include all players, coaches and owners. I don't want to define "top" too narrowly, but I think the best way to do it would be to think of the list as a list of the 50 most influential people who have helped make the Spurs one of the most successful franchises in the history of sport.

    For more information on what we are doing, check out this thread.

    In this thread, we will vote for spot number eight. Please place your vote. If you will, also explain in this thread why you voted how you did.

    Thanks.



    P.S.

    Poll options listed in alphabetical order. If you want to vote for someone not on the list, post in the thread and I'll add the person.

    Voting will end 2AM CST Sunday morning. Please vote only once.

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    To me this is between Bowen, AJ, Elliott, Kenon and Silas.

    Bowen has three championships and played a vital role in each le. He hasn't made an All-Star team but he has been named to the All-Defensive team in each of his seven seasons with the Spurs (including five consecutive first team selections). Obviously, he hasn't been much offensively but his clutchness in the playoffs (6 out of 7 playoffs he shot better than 40% from beyond the three-point line) shouldn't be forgotten. Overall, next to Kenon, Bowen might go down as the most underrated Spurs player of All-Time.

    AJ is the franchise leader in assists. He was basically the player coach of the 1999 championship. He, along with David Robinson, are arguably the two most responsible for making the Spurs a no nonsense franchise in the mid-1990s. AJ was also the unquestioned leader of the Spurs for the better part of a decade. He wasn't a talented player but he played about as well as possible with the tools he was given.

    Elliott was a two-time All-Star who was one of the most skilled players in franchise history. In the peak of his career, he probably didn't live all the way up to his potential -- with part of the blame going to injuries. However, he was a huge part of the 1999 championship team and hit the biggest shot in franchise history. Coming back from a kidney transplant was unspeakably heroic and his dedication to the Spurs since day 1 has definitely been apparent.

    Larry Kenon is probably the best player left and his numbers give him a very good case. He averaged 20 and 10 over five years with the Spurs while making three All-Star games. Problem was he not only left on bad terms, he didn't have much of an impact on the overall franchise outside of his great numbers.

    Silas had a great season that was probably better than any season in Spurs history not authored by Gervin, Robinson or Duncan. That season earned him an All-ABA first team award. In the ABA days, Silas was as good or better than Gervin. He single-handedly won an amazing amount of games in his first couple years with the Spurs. The drawback with Silas is he was robbed of much of his prime due to injury.

    Right now, I have no idea which player I'm going to vote for. I'm leaning toward either Bowen or Silas but I'm not sure. I'm pretty confident in that I like Bowen over AJ and Silas over Kenon. That leaves Bowen, Elliott and Silas. Bowen vs. Elliott is really damn close. And whoever is ahead in that race is really close to Silas.

    This is a close one . . .

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    Bowen was as important to the success of the last 5 years as the rest of the Big Four. Gotta be Bowen, sorry Sean and AJ.

    I will concede that I might be undervaluing the '99 championship a little here. BTW - anyone know where I can buy all 4 playoff series from '99 on DVD - I'd love to watch that right now! Actually, I'd like to buy every playoff series of the 4 championship seasons, but where from?

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    Thanks for the breakdown timvp. This is a tough one, I'm going to take in everyone's thoughts before I decide.

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    This vote pretty much comes down to Bowen or Elliott for me.

    While I can't deny Bowen's contributions to the Spurs, I can't help but feel that his overall value to the team is equal parts his own capability and Popovich's defense-first philosophy. That pushes me more in Elliott's direction with this vote.

    That, and the Memorial Day Miracle, of course.

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    Elliott all the way! got us to the finals and our first le.

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    People who vote for Oberto and Del Negro deserve to be hung from their balls off the side of the Tower of Americas.

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    Malik Rose also need to be in the discussion, he was a big part in 2 championships.
    anyway my vote go for Sean Elliott!

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    Bruce Bowen.

    I just got a sig card of his to start my Spurs collection. This guy gets no love or credit. We can go on all day about how Tim is the reason why we got rings, we'll sure he is. But without Bowen it would not have happened.

    Day in and day out this guy is put on the opposing teams best scorer. He never gets a break. The way he shut down Billups in that 2005 Finals game is what lead to our pulling out that win. He is so unselfish, and just works his ass off. He is the best defensive player the Spurs will ever have. He has been robbed of the DPOY how many years now? It's sad and really upsetting.

    Bowen has given us crucial corner 3s too. I mean crucial. Without that and his defense we are not at the pinnacle we are.

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    Bruce Bowen.

    I just got a sig card of his to start my Spurs collection. This guy gets no love or credit. We can go on all day about how Tim is the reason why we got rings, we'll sure he is. But without Bowen it would not have happened.

    Day in and day out this guy is put on the opposing teams best scorer. He never gets a break. The way he shut down Billups in that 2005 Finals game is what lead to our pulling out that win. He is so unselfish, and just works his ass off. He is the best defensive player the Spurs will ever have. He has been robbed of the DPOY how many years now? It's sad and really upsetting.

    Bowen has given us crucial corner 3s too. I mean crucial. Without that and his defense we are not at the pinnacle we are.
    It did in 1999.

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    David Robinson.

    I meant 03-05-07.

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    Sean should be much higher rated than he is at the possible 8 spot.
    It's insulting to put him this low.

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    David Robinson.

    I meant 03-05-07.
    Suuuuure you did.

    (I keed, I keed)

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    We can go on all day about how Tim is the reason why we got rings, we'll sure he is. But without Bowen it would not have happened.

    Bowen has given us crucial corner 3s too. I mean crucial. Without that and his defense we are not at the pinnacle we are.
    Sean hit the most crucuial corner 3 in Spurs history. If the Spurs had not won in 1999, Tim might have up and left town. 1999 comes before 2003, 2005 & 2007

    Sean should be much higher rated than he is at the possible 8 spot.
    It's insulting to put him this low.
    It is insulting. What's even more insulting is that some are under the opinion that Bowen is more deserving of being in the top 10 of the greatest Spurs than Sean Elliott.

    The man came back from a kidney transplant. It would be enough for many of us just to sustain life after a kidney transplant. However, this man came back and was still able to perform at the highest level.

    Here's to Elliott in a landslide!

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    I chose Bruce over Elliott.

    I think Sean was a better player but Bruce spend more years playing in a high level and playing much more games. Bruce only missed 25 games in his 1st season with the Spurs due injury.

    During his 7 season with the Spurs he always had to go after the best perimeter guy of other teams and he did a fantastic job. Fantastic D and a bunch o clutch shots, my favorite is the one in 2007 run, game at Phoenix.

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    Third vote for Silas. And looks like I get to vote for him a couple of times more. As with Ginobli, I'd be voting for Parker one slot lower. So I agree with the crowd so far, but for Silas.

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    Homerism aside, it could be argued that Bowen has been more instrumental to the Spurs defensive minded style of bball than even Manu or Tony. With that in mind, I don't see how people can pick Sean over him. Just take into account the number of championships where Bowen has left his mark.

    Again, bull aside, everyone is complaining about Manu this and Tony that, while Bowen seems to always get the short end of the stick in terms of popularity. Bowen should be winning this easily in my opinion.

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    Elliott is the all-time franchise leader in three-point field goals made (563) and attempted (1,485). He is also the only player in Spurs history to rank among the franchise's top ten in six different statistical categories: games played (third, 669), points (fourth, 9,659), rebounds (sixth, 2,941), assists (seventh, 1,700), steals (eighth, 522), and blocks (ninth, 257).

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    Bruuuuuuuuuuce

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    I'm really torn between James Silas or Sean Elliott. Damn it...

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    Sean. For the third time.

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    Sean should be much higher rated than he is at the possible 8 spot.
    It's insulting to put him this low.
    If it were just players, I would agree with you, but front office people are in this thing. If he were selected in this spot, he would be the sixth player, and there would be one HOF (Gervin), 2 sure fire HOF(Tim, Dave), and Manu's probable combined NBA/FIBA/Euroleague resume HOF selction in the five spots above him. No shame in that.

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    Sean Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Lu ck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_.

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    Homerism aside, it could be argued that Bowen has been more instrumental to the Spurs defensive minded style of bball than even Manu or Tony. With that in mind, I don't see how people can pick Sean over him. Just take into account the number of championships where Bowen has left his mark.

    Again, bull aside, everyone is complaining about Manu this and Tony that, while Bowen seems to always get the short end of the stick in terms of popularity. Bowen should be winning this easily in my opinion.
    I agree. Sean was such a scorer for us because we didn't have any. It was D-Rob and what else? Never much more than role players. Bruce deserves this.

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    Sean hit the most crucuial corner 3 in Spurs history. If the Spurs had not won in 1999, Tim might have up and left town. 1999 comes before 2003, 2005 & 2007
    Horry hit the most crucial 3 in Spurs history. I don't think it's fair to break it down into "corner" or "wing" or "top" positions. Just that you make it.

    I'd take BB over Sean in the corner any day.

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