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    Very Clintonesque.

    Go with which way the polls tell you.
    The Clintons were the only politicians to use polls? That's news to me.

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    Ok, really, what makes Joe Biden have so much foreign policy experience?

    I hate to be the devil's advocate, but what are his qualifications? Being Chairman of the FRC? He doesn't get mixed up between Sunni and Shia?

    I'm just not sold yet...
    He's been the highest ranking Democrat on the Foreign Relations Committee for the last eleven years and has chaired the committee on several occasions. He's widely considered to be the Senate's top Democratic foreign policy expert.

    Biden has served several terms as chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, which he heads now, and has substantial contacts with world leaders. Just last weekend, he accepted an invitation from Georgian leader Mikhail Saakashvili to visit the former Soviet republic during its tense standoff with Russia.

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    The Clintons were the only politicians to use polls? That's news to me.

    But Obama is bringing change!

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    But Obama is bringing change!
    Ha. Yeah. Obviously, you have to get elected first. That always seems to get in the way of any "reformer" candidate.

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    Biden is a pretty lousy pick if you ask me.That smart move would have been to pick Clinton.

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    The guy who voted for the war, argued for the war, then declared the war lost,opposed the surge, and argued that the best hope was to divide Iraq up into three seperate countries.

    I heard Rush the other day praying that it would be Biden.

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    The guy who voted for the war, argued for the war, then declared the war lost,opposed the surge, and argued that the best hope was to divide Iraq up into three seperate countries.

    I heard Rush the other day praying that it would be Biden.
    A lot of voters have doubts that Obama knows what he's doing. Having Hillary Clinton as the VP would have erased all those doubts.

    STUPID, STUPID move by Obama. Picking HIllary would have angered up the right wing base, but would have also probably locked down most independents.

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    Biden is a pretty lousy pick if you ask me.That smart move would have been to pick Clinton.
    I think Clinton would may brought more votes and some unity to the ticket, but she spent the last four months of the primary slamming Obama and handled her exit from the primary poorly.

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    yeah, because paying iraqis not to kill us is a resounding victory.

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    A lot of voters have doubts that Obama knows what he's doing. Having Hillary Clinton as the VP would have erased all those doubts.

    STUPID, STUPID move by Obama. Picking HIllary would have angered up the right wing base, but would have also probably locked down most independents.
    I don't know that Hillary locked up independents. Polls show Biden does better with independents than Hillary. Plus, the Obama campaign would have to worry about Bill's post-presidential activities. That may have been a Pandora's box.

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    I think Clinton would may brought more votes and some unity to the ticket, but she spent the last four months of the primary slamming Obama and handled her exit from the primary poorly.
    Thats the name of the game. Obama is seriously hurting his own chances by trying to "punish" Hillary for the way she behaved in the primaries.

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    The guy who voted for the war, argued for the war, then declared the war lost,opposed the surge, and argued that the best hope was to divide Iraq up into three seperate countries.

    I heard Rush the other day praying that it would be Biden.

    , if you don't think Rush was praying for Hillary to be on the ticket, you are deluded. The Clinton administration made Rush Limbaugh. Bill and Hill being back at the top would be a gold mine for talk radio.

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    Thats the name of the game. Obama is seriously hurting his own chances by trying to "punish" Hillary for the way she behaved in the primaries.
    I don't think it's an issue of punishing her. It's an issue of not rewarding her for mishandling her exit and fracturing the party. Plus, I think a larger issue is the baggage that Hill and Bill brought to the ticket.

    The Obama campaign would have to constantly worry that at any given moment a story would break about Bill that would bring down the campaign (see John Edwards).

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    STUPID, STUPID move by Obama. Picking HIllary would have angered up the right wing base, but would have also probably locked down most independents.
    Another poll that appears to disprove that assertion -


    Democrats

    Candidate Fav-Unfav
    Clinton 77-22 (+55)
    Biden 65-17 (+48)

    Bayh 45-25 (+20)
    Sebelius 35-19 (+16)
    Kaine 35-29 (+6)

    Clinton has the highest favorables and highest net score among Democrats; Biden has the fewest unfavorables. Generally speaking, Clinton and Biden blow the other three candidates out of the water.

    Indepedents

    Candidate Fav-Unfav
    Biden 42-29 (+13)
    Bayh 31-21 (+10)
    Kaine 24-23 (+1)
    Sebelius 18-21 (-3)
    Clinton 39-57 (-18)

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    Biden is good people. One of only 10 senators to vote against UIGEA when it was a stand alone bill. It passed 90-10 and he was one of the 10. In this election, that is enough for me to like you.

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    Finally, someone with a bad enough comb-over to rival McCain's.

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    At least Biden will make it interesting....



    If he continues to use the term "bull " during interviews, Obama will win in a landslide!

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    Finally, someone with a bad enough comb-over to rival McCain's.

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    Finally, someone with a bad enough comb-over to rival McCain's.
    Well, the issue isn't so much the comb-over as it is the plugs. Biden needs to get some repair work done on his hairline.

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    I've been reading articles about him all day.

    Is it true that he is an atheist? Im finding quotes about him saying in reference to intelligent design "The majority of the people don't believe that malarky do they?"

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    I've been reading articles about him all day.

    Is it true that he is an atheist? Im finding quotes about him saying in reference to intelligent design "The majority of the people don't believe that malarky do they?"
    He's Catholic.

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    I've been reading articles about him all day.

    Is it true that he is an atheist? Im finding quotes about him saying in reference to intelligent design "The majority of the people don't believe that malarky do they?"
    I think the quote was in response to a discussion about creationism/intelligent design. I don't know that not believing in such concepts necessarily makes you an atheist. Besides, he's been reported to be a Catholic.

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    Biden going after opponents during the primary debates.



    At least, he'll make the vice-presidential debate fun.

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    So if McCain selects Romney as a running mate, will TPark decry the choice as Clinton-esque, given the previously cited polling data? Or will McCain be simply making a pragmatic choice?

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    Will he plagerize his acceptance speech tommarow?
    Jesus christ tpark you are the epitome of what is wrong with this ing country

    oo0o0oo0o0o0o did you have to google really hard to think of that cutdown? Did your dad hand you the book of "Irrelevant political insults and how to rally your fellow neocon around them" before handing you the keys to the circus kingdom?

    You make me want to commit acts of terror

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