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    Duncan also got some steroid shots

    cortisone which is allowed also is a "drug"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cortisone


    Try to learn something. Try to know the reality in sports and then talk.
    Uhh... there's a difference between cortisone and other such steroids and anabolic steroids taken to increase muscle mass.

    For one thing, one of them is legal in sports and one isn't.

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    NBA players get tested regularly. Do you know any NBA players? I know several of them personally, and they all get tested.
    If I remember right, a lot of drugs that are allowed in the NBA aren't allowed in FIBA compe ions....

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    oh i understand the difference. the difference is that you think the spurs own manu, so for him it is a BS exhibition, but at the same time you are a patriot, so when your country wins you are "on top of the world", even though you won an "exhibition". In other words, when it suits your club interest it is meaningless, but when it suits your national interests its meaningful.

    epitome of selfish, indeed.

    The Spurs don't own Manu, but they have sure as rented him. I don't see any difference between Manu and those other guys. They all ought to have their asses kicked for endangering their NBA seasons. Last time I checked, several million dollars per year represents one of a commitment on the part of the teams. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect them to show a similar level of commitment. And, for the record, it's ultimately the fans that are paying those salaries.

    This all got started because we used to send amateurs (kids) to the Olympics, while other countries were sending what amounted to seasoned professionals. We finally got to send our professionals, and they destroyed the other teams. And, yes, Americans took pride in that. But if David Robinson, for instance, had been injured and missed the next season? You would have heard just as many people saying that it was a dumb thing for him to do.

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    For poland ...

    (learn something, as you would say)

    Steroid injections are a common and effective treatment for a variety of conditions in which inflammation causes pain, swelling and other problems. Glucocorticoids, particularily prednisone and cortisone, are used in injections for inflammation and pain. These hormones help reduce inflammation and pain in the body. Cortisone is the most well known injected steroid and it has a dramatic anti-inflammatory effect on tissues, particularly joints and tendons. This family of steroids is not the same thing as anabolic steroids, which are used to enhance muscular development, and are largely illegal in international athletic compe ion.

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    Duncan also got some steroid shots

    cortisone which is allowed also is a "drug"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cortisone


    Try to learn something. Try to know the reality in sports and then talk.
    I got a lot of those shots in my shoulder when I use to play sports. It never showed up on my drug test because the shot has a weak steroid vs. the kind bodybuilders take.

    edit: oh yeah...the shot + rehab is a great alternative to getting cut open

    if the IOC has this as a banned drug, then I'm willing to bet a lot of athletes would be kicked out

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    If I remember right, a lot of drugs that are allowed in the NBA aren't allowed in FIBA compe ions....
    Americans are not being testes in the olympics

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    NBA players aren't tested during the summer per the CBA

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    For poland ...

    (learn something, as you would say)
    cortisone which is allowed also is a "drug"

    That shows how many people are not well informed about steroids.
    Many of them are used for health issues.


    You probably thinks that there are only Tim mongomey and Marion Jones who took the roids in whole american athletic world. Come on. It doesn't even sounds serious.

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    btw. steroids for athlets are not just helping them gain muscle mass.

    F1, golf for example are also infected by steroids and I can't see them (sportmen) having big muscle mass.

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    Many of them are used for health issues.
    True, but those steroids aren't the same family of drugs as anabolic steroids used for muscle enhancement. And you don't seem to be understanding the difference. Cortisone and those steroids aren't banned drugs.

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    True, but those steroids aren't the same family of drugs as anabolic steroids used for muscle enhancement. And you don't seem to be understanding the difference. Cortisone and those steroids aren't banned drugs.
    They could be in FIBA.

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    if the IOC has this as a banned drug, then I'm willing to bet a lot of athletes would be kicked out
    Well it is all about "you" having too much something in your body.

    There are doses which are allowed. It means they are in average. Only when you are higher then the average you may get banned which is highly inprobable.

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    True, but those steroids aren't the same family of drugs as anabolic steroids used for muscle enhancement. And you don't seem to be understanding the difference. Cortisone and those steroids aren't banned drugs.
    Jesus Crist


    Can you read?

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    True, but those steroids aren't the same family of drugs as anabolic steroids used for muscle enhancement. And you don't seem to be understanding the difference. Cortisone and those steroids aren't banned drugs.
    They just increases your hormones

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    In fricking short

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    poland you've got to be the dumbest ing foreigner in the world and that says a lot for you to be able to out-stupid the entire nation of France.

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    Can you read?
    Yeah I can read fine. You seem to think that NBA players taking cortisone is the same as someone shooting up anabolic steroids.

    One is allowed by FIBA and NBA. One isn't.

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    They could be in FIBA.
    Cortisone is approved by FIBA.

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    poland you've got to be the dumbest ing foreigner in the world and that says a lot for you to be able to out-stupid the entire nation of France.
    Thanks I will take it to my heart.


    Carl Lewis was clean, Lance Armsrong was clean, Arnold was clean, bodybuilders are clean in general.

    They did not get banned, did they?

    Were they tested? yes!

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    Przem, if I shine a light on you do the colors separate and form a rainbow?

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    Cortisone is approved by FIBA.
    Ok, but I think not all drugs are approved by both.

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    Przem, if I shine a light on you do the colors separate and form a rainbow?

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    Yeah I can read fine. You seem to think that NBA players taking cortisone is the same as someone shooting up anabolic steroids.

    One is allowed by FIBA and NBA. One isn't.
    Nope

    Try to read it once again.

    That was a joke with TD having a drug. But it is fricking true. Steroids are being in medicine and medicine is in sports all the time.
    Some are banned some are not. And there are standarts for having too much hormones. Standarts that some people put into books.

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    Ok, but I think not all drugs are approved by both.
    There's a group of drugs like cortisone that if the athletes take them, then their trainers/staff have to submit paperwork saying that the drugs were given for therapeutic reasons. If they don't file the papers and they test positive, then they can get in trouble.

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    poland you've got to be the dumbest ing foreigner in the world and that says a lot for you to be able to out-stupid the entire nation of France.
    Ah, give the Polish guy a break. If this was in Polish, I'd guess he'd have a much more sensical argument.

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