View Poll Results: Spot Number 12 - Top 50 Spurs

**baseline bum** · 08-27-2008

everybody was pumped he got the gig, but when he started the whining and coplaining about Bruce, it was very unSpurs like. Part of being a Spur is not crying about officiating.

No, crying about officiating is part of keeping your job when your boss is a whiny like Mark Cuban.

**SenorSpur** · 08-27-2008

I certainly don't view AJ as a traitor. I just feel his accomplishments and personality traits are being overblown - especially for a player who was a virtual journeyman early in his career. I credit him for developing himself into a good player and becoming a leader on a championship team.

However, his leadership abilities and the whole "man of integrity" status card are hollow. Especially when you consider the fact that he has a penchant for being an abrasive, egotistical, tyrannt.

Need more evidence? Talk to anyone in the Mavs organization about his supposed leadership qualities. How did that turn out?

**timvp** · 08-27-2008

Originally Posted by rascal

Avery also missed the final shot to give Sprewell a chance for the winning basket.

I've seen some lame AJ hate in my day but this takes the cake. AJ shot like a 30-foot one-hander because the shot clock was running out. The rest of the Spurs on the floor were getting ready to celebrate a championship while AJ knew he had to shoot the ball. Him hitting rim made four or five more seconds go off the clock and left the Knicks with barely any time.

I'd say AJ definitely deserves this spot. Decent enough player, great leader, got Elie, helped Pop survive and was a big part of the Spurs first championship.

In fact, during the playoffs that year, I'd say AJ was the third best Spur. It's close with Elliott but at times Elliott was noticeably tired, which turned out to be due to his kidneys. Many don't remember but Elie shot like crap during that whole playoff run. AJ went from the fifth leading scorer during the regular season to the third leading scorer during the playoffs. He also averaged 7.4 assists on top of his points.

**timvp** · 08-27-2008

Originally Posted by CaptMike

Kerr; won more rings than AJ and was the reason the Spurs won in 2003. If you are voting AJ because of assists and one shot, then you should vote Kerr before him.

I pray to the basketball gods that this is a joke.

**2centsworth** · 08-27-2008

Originally Posted by timvp

I've seen some lame AJ hate in my day but this takes the cake. AJ shot like a 30-foot one-hander because the shot clock was running out. The rest of the Spurs on the floor were getting ready to celebrate a championship while AJ knew he had to shoot the ball. Him hitting rim made four or five more seconds go off the clock and left the Knicks with barely any time.

I'd say AJ definitely deserves this spot. Decent enough player, great leader, got Elie, helped Pop survive and was a big part of the Spurs first championship.

In fact, during the playoffs that year, I'd say AJ was the third best Spur. It's close with Elliott but at times Elliott was noticeably tired, which turned out to be due to his kidneys. Many don't remember but Elie shot like crap during that whole playoff run. AJ went from the fifth leading scorer during the regular season to the third leading scorer during the playoffs. He also averaged 7.4 assists on top of his points.

Sean's D on Kobe alone makes him third best. As far as Avery, he was always a very clutch player and played his best in the playoffs.

Lets not forget how well Jaren Jackson played, he could vie for 3rd best

**angel_luv** · 08-27-2008

Avery is bound to get one of the top 50 spots. I guess this one is as good any.
At least that way he won't be mentioned thread after thread.

I am satisfied with the top ten list, which is the most important and most memorable.

I will not vote for A.J. though. I can easily find 50 listed that I like better- even if I have to vote for Nazr.

Okay so that last bit is a stretch. But you get my point.

**baseline bum** · 08-27-2008

AJ >>> Beno

**Mr.Bottomtooth** · 08-27-2008

the Avery haters.

**alamo50** · 08-27-2008

Still no Swen Nater in the poll.

**SenorSpur** · 08-27-2008

Originally Posted by alamo50

Still no Swen Nater in the poll.

**J.T.** · 08-27-2008

AJ should have been off the board in one of the top 3 spots. SpursTalk disappointed me by letting him fall this far.

**dallaskd** · 08-27-2008

Avery, but Malik is next.

**Spurtacus** · 08-27-2008

Little General!

**angelbelow** · 08-27-2008

avery should get this one

**IronMexican** · 08-27-2008

Horry!

**FromWayDowntown** · 08-27-2008

I'm torn here -- AJ was definitely the on-court leader of that first le team and the heartbeat of the Spurs for about half a decade or so, but he clearly doesn't have a superior statistical resume to someone like Robertson, who toiled in some pretty lean years in San Antonio while keeping the Spurs on the map in many ways during that time.

Mike Mitc and Artis Gilmore fall into the same boat in many ways.

I'm not a huge Johnny Moore supporter, but he certainly did have his moments -- his 1983 Playoffs were pretty special, statistically (22.5 ppg, 14.6 apg, 53% FT, 53% 3PT, and a 161:38 assist to turnover ratio) -- and might have had more if illness hadn't struck him down. On top of that Moore (and Mitc ) truly did bridge the gap from Gervin to Robinson.

Then there are the non-players who could fit here. Bob Bass needs to be somewhere in the next few spots, I think. Peter Holt and General McDermott deserve to be recognized for their roles in keeping the Spurs viable and viable in San Antonio. And if it weren't for Bob Hill's personality, the Spurs might not have ever gotten the benefits of Pop assuming the head coaching role -- that has to count for something.

**Phenomanul** · 08-28-2008

Sam Presti is still missing from the list (he's bound to be picked somewhere between Spots 25-30....

**angelbelow** · 08-28-2008

after rreading through the forum, p[erhaps i should have voted for alvin also..

**SenorSpur** · 08-28-2008

Originally Posted by angelbelow

after rreading through the forum, p[erhaps i should have voted for alvin also..

I sure wish you would've. I supposed most Spurs fans are new or others have simply forgotten how good a player he was. There was a good deal of lobbying for guys like AJ and Kenon - and rightfully so. However, people forget that Robertson was the Spurs best player, lone all-star, and perennial statistical leader in a variety of categories from 84=88.