McCain Picks Palin

[TacoCabanaFajitas]

Mr. H-o-o-k-e-d o-n p-h-o-n-i-c-s ... I know what you were saying which is why I started off my post with the " You are crying hypocrisy" ...

So no response to anything else I said? Typical

[Buddy Holly]

Read the speech again.

He only talked about "old washington politics" a billion times.

The only mention of "old Washington politics" came when criticizing Washington and their dependence on oil.

Not quite "a billion times." Close though.

[Gino]

The only mention of "old Washington politics" came when criticizing Washington and their dependence on oil.

Not quite "a billion times." Close though.

Yeah right. He said that our dependence on foreign oil has tripled since John McCain came to Washington. So how much has it increased since Biden came to Washington?

Obama is gonna get SHREDDED next week. But he asked for it.

[T Park]

The only mention of "old Washington politics" came when criticizing Washington and their dependence on oil.

Not quite "a billion times." Close though.

But thats part of my point. If your gonna rail against Old washington stuff and all that, go with someone thats the same thats against all the old washington stuff, not someone thats been in there since Nixon.

Also I like Joe Biden, I really do, but all I ask of him, is to lay off the bs of the common man stuff and the house when he himself has a freaking COMPOUND.

[T Park]

Yeah right. He said that our dependence on foreign oil has tripled since John McCain came to Washington. So how much has it increased since Biden came to Washington?

Obama is gonna get SHREDDED next week. But he asked for it.

He was probobly for it before he was against it.

[Buddy Holly]

Except the largest squadron in the Navy.

Yes, over thirty years ago.

That wasn't what Implacable meant when he/she said "running anything."

[implacable44]

So no response to anything else I said? Typical

what else did you want me to respond to ? Why not Romney -- in the interest of full disclosure and fairness... I am Mormon.... I can thing of several reasons why not Romney.. The Mormon issue would have come up again - which is funny because the black theology and rev. wright is so quickly dismissed - not to mention it is prejudice -- you know - you can't say anything about gay -- minority --- female -- muslim -- but white people , christians and mormons -- open season... funny.. Not to mention Mitt wants to be President and hopes to run at a later time which is why he only suspended his campaign earlier. be it 4 or 8 years from now.

[whottt]

Also I like Joe Biden, I really do, but all I ask of him, is to lay off the bs of the common man stuff and the house when he himself has a freaking COMPOUND.

Biden is a dirtbag and the least likeable person in this election. Was a horrible choice by Obama.

[T Park]

you know - you can't say anything about gay -- minority --- female -- muslim -- but white people , christians and mormons -- open season

Yup yup yup...

[Buddy Holly]

Yeah right. He said that our dependence on foreign oil has tripled since John McCain came to Washington. So how much has it increased since Biden came to Washington?

Exactly, his only mention of old time Washington politics was saying Government in Washington depended too much on oil.

Not quite "a billion times."

Obama is gonna get SHREDDED next week. But he asked for it.

On what exactly? Be specific, Be concise. You asked for it.

[implacable44]

Yes, over thirty years ago.

That wasn't what Implacable meant when he/she said "running anything."

dang -- you know my thoughts like that ? who are you -- Jack Handy ?

[T Park]

Biden is a dirtbag and the least likeable person in this election. Was a horrible choice by Obama.

I don't know if hes a dirtbag, but hes pulling a Libermann and doing the whole "I LOVE BARACK" when it wasn't that far back he was ripping Obama to shreds about the experience thing, then here he is now all happy and gay with Barack.

[Buddy Holly]

But thats part of my point. If your gonna rail against Old washington stuff and all that, go with someone thats the same thats against all the old washington stuff, not someone thats been in there since Nixon.

Also I like Joe Biden, I really do, but all I ask of him, is to lay off the bs of the common man stuff and the house when he himself has a freaking COMPOUND.

Well, he's not the common man, but for a senior politician he's the closet thing.

[shelshor]

I never once honestly said anything about old washington politics.

Your man Obama is the one babbling about it.

Speaking of old politics, isn't Obama just the latest national offering from the old Daley/Chicago/Cook County machine?

[Buddy Holly]

I don't know if hes a dirtbag, but hes pulling a Libermann and doing the whole "I LOVE BARACK" when it wasn't that far back he was ripping Obama to shreds about the experience thing, then here he is now all happy and gay with Barack.

What was he to do? He was running against him in a political compe ion.

Was he supposed to play nice? Compliment him?

Yeah, many a politicians have won their nominations, nay, have won elections by putting their opponent on a pedestal.

[implacable44]

Well, he's not the common man, but for a senior politician he's the closet thing.

He is ? the common man eh ? the one who plagiarizes his way through law school ? the one who -- responds to a question with the common phrase about having a much higher intellect?

[Buddy Holly]

dang -- you know my thoughts like that ? who are you -- Jack Handy ?

So what did you mean then. It was in correlation to Mrs. Palin and her "running the state of Alaska as Governor.

[T Park]

Speaking of old politics, isn't Obama just the latest national offering from the old Daley/Chicago/Cook County machine?

Great point.

[angel_luv]

Brooks and Dunn are Republicans, right?

They got that song "Just Put a Girl in It" that's on the charts right now.

Gonna be a new verse soon, I bet.

[Mr. Peabody]

Conservative reaction to Palin pick -

Let's kick things off with Kathryn Jean Lopez of National Review:

"She Just Is Not Ready to Be Commander-in-Chief" [said] Pat Buchanan on MSNBC just now, about Sarah Palin. I'm liable to agree.

Lopez also posted this as a typical email she's gotten:

As much as I loathe Obama-Biden, I can't in good conscience vote for a McCain-Palin ticket. Palin has absolutely no experience in foreign affairs. Considering both McCain's advanced age and the state of the world today, it is essential that the veep be exceedingly qualified to assume the office of president. I simply don't have any confidence in Palin's ability to deal effectively with Iran, Russia, China, etc. I certainly will not cast a vote for Obama-Biden, but nor will I vote for McCain-Palin. Looks like I'll either sit this one out or vote for Bob Barr. Why, o, why, didn't McCain listen to Rove and just pick Romney?

From the National Review's Ramesh Ponnuru:

Inexperience. Palin has been governor for about two minutes. Thanks to McCain’s decision, Palin could be commander-in-chief next year. That may strike people as a reckless choice; it strikes me that way. And McCain's age raised the stakes on this issue.

As a political matter, it undercuts the case against Obama. Conservatives are pointing out that it is tricky for the Obama campaign to raise the issue of her inexperience given his own, and note that the presidency matters more than the vice-presidency. But that gets things backward. To the extent the experience, qualifications, and national-security arguments are taken off the table, Obama wins.

And it’s not just foreign policy. Palin has no experience dealing with national domestic issues, either. (On the other hand, as Kate O’Beirne just told me, we know that Palin will be ready for that 3 a.m. phone call: She’ll already be up with her baby.)

Tokenism. Can anyone say with a straight face that Palin would have gotten picked if she were a man?

Compatibility. It doesn’t seem as though McCain knows Palin well. Do we have much reason to think they would work well together?

Debates. Maybe, as Jonah said the other day, Biden will look like a bully going up against her—and maybe she’ll shine. But I can think of a lot of other picks who would have been lower-risk.

I am not even sure that the pick will have quite the galvanizing effect on conservatives that it seems to be having now as it sinks in. The concerns I’ve mentioned here—about her readiness and her credentials—are the kind of thing that many conservative voters take seriously.

From the National Review's Jonah Goldberg:

Downside: She may not be ready for primetime. The heartbeat-from-the-presidency issue is a real one.

From the National Review's Jonathon Adler:

I recognize that were McCain to select Palin as his Veep it disrupts the Obama Lacks Foreign Policy Experience" talking point, but I was never thought that argument was all that powerful.

From Town Hall's Ron Fournier:

If Obama is an empty suit, as McCain has suggested, is Palin suited for the Oval Office herself?

She is younger and less experienced than the first-term Illinois senator, and brings an ethical shadow to the ticket. Just 20 months ago, she was mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, a town of 6,500 where the biggest issue is controlling growth and the biggest annual worry is whether there will be enough snow for the Iditarod dog-mushing race.

From MSNBC's Joe Scarborough:

It Sounds Like a Harriet Miers Decision. Let's Find a Woman, Whether She's Experienced or Not.

[Gino]

Exactly, his only mention of old time Washington politics was saying Government in Washington depended too much on oil.

Not quite "a billion times."


On what exactly? Be specific, Be concise. You asked for it.

On foreign policy.

No one made a bigger case against the successful surge that John McCain authored more than Barrack Obama.

Barrack's response to Russian agression was another example of how he's completely clueless on foreign affairs.

Republicans will probably mock his stupid "Carrot and stick" approach to dealing foreign leaders.


Obama also had no problem crossing over to "Mr. Nasty". Bringing up the "Nation of whiners" line said by a man that McCain fired was a pretty cheap attack on McCain.

Don't be surprised if we hear how Obama passed up meeting with the troops when he heard there would be no cameras.

Like I said, Obama asked for it.

[T Park]

What was he to do? He was running against him in a political compe ion.

Was he supposed to play nice? Compliment him?

Yeah, many a politicians have won their nominations, nay, have won elections by putting their opponent on a pedestal.

Thats exactly my point.

Hes a typical "old washingtong politics" guy.

Someone Barack has been against for MONTHS!

[Buddy Holly]

He is ? the common man eh ? the one who plagiarizes his way through law school ? the one who -- responds to a question with the common phrase about having a much higher intellect?

Yes, the common man is perfect. Flawless. Not one common man has ever said they're smarter than someone else. Not one common person has ever said anything remotely "uncommon manish."

[T Park]

I just hope this woman has thick skin....

[T Park]

Yes, the common man is perfect. Flawless. Not one common man has ever said they're smarter than someone else. Not one common person has ever said anything remotely "uncommon manish."

Totally missed the point...