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    Has anyone figured out how much drilling in ANWAR will lower gas prices?

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    #2. She's likeable...that's the #1 foreign policy skill there is. It's what W lacks. Incidentally...it's also what Biden lacks which is why his foreign policy experience means jack .
    If that's the criteria, then Obama would be the most effective when it comes to issues of foreign policy. Even more so than Ms. Palin.



    Quite honestly though, likability is not the most important trait for being successful in foreign policy. You can't be a Sara Lee diplomat ("No one doesn't like Sara Lee") and get anywhere unless you have a strategy and developed goals in mind. You don't develop those in two months after a lifetime of not taking an interest in them.

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    If that's the criteria, then Obama would be the most effective when it comes to issues of foreign policy. Even more so than Ms. Palin.


    I haven't heard anyone doubt Obama's international appeal or his likeability...that's what has got him this far.

    What they doubt is how much America appeals to him.




    Quite honestly though, likability is not the most important trait for being successful in foreign policy. You can't be a Sara Lee diplomat ("No one doesn't like Sara Lee") and get anywhere unless you have a strategy and developed goals in mind. You don't develop those in two months after a lifetime of not taking an interest in them.

    I diagree...likeability is far and away the #1 most important attribute in foreign policy...if people like the leader, they'll like the country and it's people, and if they don't they won't.

    Don't get me wrong...it's not the only important thing, but it is the most important.


    PS: Obama doesn't have any more of the other foreign policy qualifications beyond likeability than Palin does,

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    PS: Obama doesn't have any more of the other foreign policy qualifications beyond likeability than Palin does,
    A seat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee? I dunno, seems that would make him one of the experts in the country.

    Oh, just in case that isn't enough for you - because you'll come up with some affirmative action crap - the chair of the committee is who? Eh? Joseph Biden.

    Ranking members Lugar (R) and Chuck Hagel (R) love the out of the guy and probably, if they weren't prevented by party loyalty, would endorse the guy. In fact, they may.

    But go ahead. Talk like you know something.

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    Ranking members Lugar (R) and Chuck Hagel (R) love the out of the guy and probably, if they weren't prevented by party loyalty, would endorse the guy. In fact, they may.
    Lugar co-sponsored the Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-Proliferation Act with Obama, in an effort to reduce world-wide proliferation of nuclear materials.

    B-b-b-but, Palin was responsible for the decisions of a fishing village in Alaska....

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    A seat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee? I dunno, seems that would make him one of the experts in the country.
    Only if you're ing ignorant. He hasn't done but campaign since he was on the cimmittee.


    Oh, just in case that isn't enough for you
    It isn't.


    - because you'll come up with some affirmative action crap - the chair of the committee is who? Eh? Joseph Biden.
    No ?



    Ranking members Lugar (R) and Chuck Hagel (R) love the out of the guy and probably, if they weren't prevented by party loyalty, would endorse the guy. In fact, they may.

    But go ahead. Talk like you know something.

    A non-idiot would have mentioned that he spent a significant portion of his life being raised outside of the US and that is father was from another nation...

    Then again, you aren't a non-idiot..are you now,
    Robertas.

    Still again, a non-idiot would have realized sitting on the foreign relations committe doesn't mean jack to me...based on my comments on Biden.

    Did sitting on the Seante Intelligence Committee keep Kerry from being "lied" too about WMD? No it did not.


    The qualifications I am talking about are spending a signifcant amount of time in another country as a representative of the United States of America...

    Not sitting around...in it...you idiot.


    Not to mention having a history of standing up to other countries, as well as befriending them...instead of offering to suck their s.

    Just shut up until you get smarter...this has been a relatively enjoyable thread in particular because of the lack of idiots within it...try not to that up...mmmm kay?

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    Has anyone figured out how much drilling in ANWAR will lower gas prices?
    If they ever start drilling then you'll know.

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    If they ever start drilling then you'll know.
    Because they can't figure it out any other way. The 'invade and see' approach. Nice.

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    If they ever start drilling then you'll know.
    How much?

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    It's hers. One of my friends said the smear campaign by the left against Palin would be ridiculous. It appears they've upped the ante early.
    but what happened to the campaign of "change" and different politics?

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    I diagree...likeability is far and away the #1 most important attribute in foreign policy...if people like the leader, they'll like the country and it's people, and if they don't they won't.

    Don't get me wrong...it's not the only important thing, but it is the most important.
    Wow, just wow... Spoken like a true American that has never ever lived long enough in a foreign country and been directly affected by US foreign policy...
    I'm on vacation for another two weeks, so I can't look up right now what each candidate offers in terms of foreign policy on their platform. But whoever wins will have to pay a ton of lip service to a bunch of regions to undo the damage this administration has done on that specific topic.

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    He, himself, never got close to admiral.
    He retired a Captain (O-6) just below the flag rank of Commordore; go read a Bluejacket's Manual.

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    He retired a Captain (O-6) just below the flag rank of Commordore; go read a Bluejacket's Manual.
    You're correct. I assumed someone with as undistinguished a record as he did (crashing planes, poor at Annapolis), other than valor in prison, never made it that far. But I guess having connections helped.

    Don't get me wrong, but without being John Sydney McCain III (with I and II being admirals), I don't think he'd get that far.

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    but what happened to the campaign of "change" and different politics?
    Well, he's refrained from the types of character attacks he's received thus far from the McCain campaign.
    Last edited by Mr. Peabody; 08-31-2008 at 11:36 PM.

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    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/30/121350/137


    it's pretty long......... but I believe it..


    She tells the world that she's the mother of Trig, but lies in doing so.... Trig is apparently the kid of her 17 year old daughter...
    You believe it because your a complete idiot.

    The birth weight of Down's Syndrome babies is up to 20% lower, so the fact that she didn't show that much isn't any reason for yet another liberal conspiracy theory.

    Add to that the fact that the probability of having a Down Syndrome baby increases with the age of the mother. What do you think the vegas odds would be on this kid being the child of a 17 year old or a 44 year old woman.


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    Ever since Obama came on to the scene many democrat actions have made me ashamed to be a democrat. This story is yet another example of taking the democratic party into the gutter. The Daily Kos type people are quickly becoming the Ditto Heads many people ridicule.

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    You're correct. I assumed someone with as undistinguished a record as he did (crashing planes, poor at Annapolis), other than valor in prison, never made it that far. But I guess having connections helped.

    Don't get me wrong, but without being John Sydney McCain III (with I and II being admirals), I don't think he'd get that far.
    You're right....they put re ed ups in charge of the largest flying squadron in the Navy.


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    Her son's name is Track. And Mitt Romney's son's name is Tag.

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    but what happened to the campaign of "change" and different politics?
    That's exactly why McCain picked Palin. In elections "change" almost always beats experience.

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    You're right....they put re ed ups in charge of the largest flying squadron in the Navy.

    Read this.

    Navy pilot John Sidney McCain III should have never been allowed to graduate from the U.S. Navy flight school. He was a below average student and a lousy pilot. Had his father and grandfather not been famous four star U.S. Navy admirals, McCain III would have never been allowed in the pit of a military aircraft.

    His father John S. "Junior" McCain was commander of U.S. forces in Europe later becoming commander of American forces in Vietnam while McCain III was being held prisoner of war. McCain III's grandfather John S. McCain, Sr. commanded naval aviation at the Battle of Okinawa in 1945.

    During his relative short stunt on flight status, McCain III lost five U.S. Navy aircraft, four in accidents and one in combat.

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    From Governor's Convention, just before birth -



    She's clearly pregnant.

    Also -
    From NBC's Mark Murray
    Reuters: "The 17-year-old daughter of Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin is pregnant, Palin said Monday in an announcement intended to knock down rumors by liberal bloggers that Palin faked her own pregnancy to cover up for her child.
    End of issue.

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    She is indeed going to be a Grandmother though... just in today...

    To rebut rumors, Palin says daughter, 17, pregnant
    http://www.reuters.com/article/newsO...44356420080901

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    Quick question, whott...

    What makes you think H. Clinton would accept the VP role?

    Do we know if she was offered it? Did she deny it?

    Lets be real....shes an egotistical with her sights set on the big chair at the big table. Second place is not tolerable for her, IMO.

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    Ever since Obama came on to the scene many democrat actions have made me ashamed to be a democrat. This story is yet another example of taking the democratic party into the gutter. The Daily Kos type people are quickly becoming the Ditto Heads many people ridicule.
    We all know with H. Clinton as the candiate for the Dems, these things would never happen.

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    Yes in the true sense of the word.

    If she tells a lie, it makes her a liar. I don't even think this is true, but your making morally relativist excuses for her in advance is quite entertaining.
    Obama is a liar -- one could even say he is a pathalogical one --(his grandfather's liberating nazi death camps that were liberated by Rusiia ?) as well as a propaganda machine - Did you catch that video before his speech ? Look up the real story of his "father".

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