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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    I have to admit, he's playing this as perfectly as possible. Right now people are going to think of Obama having a gigantic party while McCain is having charity drives and focusing on Gustav. He's going to look far more presidential out of this. This may be far better than any convention could ever be.

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    He's banking on it being very destructive.

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    No - I don't think so. He's banking on it looking like he gives a damn. I mean com'on, wtf is McCain going to do to help those people? He's not going to fly down there and build levees. He can't stop the storm. He's the senator of Arizona, not a Gulf Coast state.

    But that doesn't matter because the big story now is how he may not even show. It doesn't matter that he probably wont' be doing thats really important, but the average joe is going to see that McCain cares about what is going on, UNLIKE Bush last time. I'm not even sure that Obama can bring up the Bush/McCain birthday from last time. The politics of what he's doing is perfect.

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    It is canny, but do you think it's better than a convention? The convention looks toast, which is an amazing development. There's no star wattage in the party anymore, but having balloons drop from the ceiling and white people dancing like dorks helps go a ways, not to mention the constant talk the networks provide. McCain already showed up at the floods in the Midwest earlier in the year and this may not help him any more than that did. Does it overcome memories of Katrina?

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    I have to admit, he's playing this as perfectly as possible. Right now people are going to think of Obama having a gigantic party while McCain is having charity drives and focusing on Gustav. He's going to look far more presidential out of this. This may be far better than any convention could ever be.
    You probably didn't see this:

    Obama to Enlist Supporters for Gustav Aid

    August 31, 2008, 12:57 pm
    By Jeff Zeleny
    http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2...or-gustav-aid/


    TOLEDO, Ohio
    – Senator Barack Obama said Sunday that his campaign would mobilize its giant email list of supporters – to volunteer or send contributions – as soon as the impact of Hurricane Gustav becomes known in the Gulf Coast.

    “We can activate an email list of a couple million people who want to give back,” Mr. Obama told reporters after leaving services at St. Luke’s Lutheran Church in Lima. “I think we can get tons of volunteers to travel down there if it becomes necessary.”

    Mr. Obama has made no plans to travel to the Gulf Coast, saying he does not want to get in the way of emergency efforts there, but he has spoken by telephone to Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, Senator Mary Landrieu of Louisiana and New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin.

    Mr. Obama conducted telephone interviews with four TV stations and a news-talk radio station in New Orleans, aides said, amplifying the warning for any remaining residents to follow the evacuation order and leave the city.

    Asked whether he believed it was appropriate for Senator John McCain to travel to the Gulf Coast, Mr. Obama said: “A big storm like this raises bipartisan concerns and I think for John to want to find out what’s going on is fine.” (President Bush and Vice President Cheney have canceled their Monday night appearances at the convention.)

    “The thing that I always am concerned about in the middle of a storm,” Mr. Obama said, “is whether we’re drawing resources away from folks on the ground because the Secret Service and various security requirements sometimes it pulls police, fire and other departments away from concentrating on the job.”

    He added, “I’m assuming that where he went that wasn’t an issue. We’re going to try to stay clear of the area until things have settled down and then we’ll probably try to figure out how we can be as helpful as possible.”

    Mr. Obama and his running mate, Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr. of Delaware, are campaigning together in Ohio and Michigan before parting ways to travel separately on Labor Day.

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    Doesn't matter. Obama isn't going to get the coverage for that the way McCain is because McCain is the one having a convention.

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    Obama doesn't get the coverage McCain does because the broadcast media are "his base."

    This is no different, but it might be an awkward week for him, anyway.

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    Obama doesn't get the coverage McCain does because the broadcast media are "his base."


    I have to admit, I've been impressed by Mr. Body and The Professor lately.

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    Also, some might say that McCain is being a opportunists from a bad situation...I guess it all depends on your perception....

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    Is McFlummoxed still going to fly down there and use up resources and get in the way?

    What party is HUSSEIN having?

    Neither candidate is responsible for anything that happens on the Gulf Coast, can do nothing about it, unlike dubya and his compromised/politicized FEMA.

    Repugs cancel one day of the convention partying, BFD. The real Gulf Coast misery starts on Tue, just like the Repug partying.

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    Also, some might say that McCain is being a opportunists from a bad situation...I guess it all depends on your perception....
    Both candidates will do everything they can to benefit politically from it. But since McCain and the repub convention will be dominating the news...advantage McCain.

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    Also, some might say that McCain is being a opportunists from a bad situation...I guess it all depends on your perception....
    If that's your perception, then you're the one with the problem. Would you rather he did nothing? WTF??

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    Yeah, I'd rather he stay out of the way of emergency aid and relief workers

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    Yeah, I'd rather he stay out of the way of emergency aid and relief workers
    what Obama is doing.

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    Gustav is a great pretext to scuttle the Repug NC, as they couldn't have possibly come anywhere near the success of the Demver.

    McSillyStupid is claiming he's now an American!! not a Repug, because of Gustav. He's now above partisan politics. The guy is a ing senile, bone-head.

    He has NO ROLE to play in Gustav. Does he plan to commandeer FEMA?

    It's all political dog-and-pony show, insulting the average non-Repug American's intelligence, the Repug's themselves going for this kind of trivial, hypocritical bull .

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    John McCain cares about black people!

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    Obama doesn't get the coverage McCain does because the broadcast media are "his base."

    This is no different, but it might be an awkward week for him, anyway.
    Are you seriously suggesting that the MSM has a bias toward John McCain?!?!?

    That's laughable.


    I do think they like McCain, but Obama is just as much of a media darling...if not more.

    In this election I think you'll get a decent amount of coverage for both.

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    Doesn't matter. Obama isn't going to get the coverage for that the way McCain is because McCain is the one having a convention.
    What I don't get about this take is that McCain was consistently in the media (not as much as Obama but covered) every day along the road of the Dimmo-Convention. Every day he released some new attack ad or slogan that made the news.

    Now

    Why is it so impossible for Obama to do the same? It seems that the Dimmo's complete incompetence in campaigning is completely ingrained into our brains.

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    I agree this is an advantage for McCan but I also don't think it will make him look all that presidential since we all know this is a direct response to the mishandling of Katrina...and this is ALL the way around from the Mayor, the Governor to President Bush. Live and learn. And yes, I know that the Mayor and the previous Gov of LA are/were democrats.

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    What I don't get about this take is that McCain was consistently in the media (not as much as Obama but covered) every day along the road of the Dimmo-Convention. Every day he released some new attack ad or slogan that made the news.

    Now

    Why is it so impossible for Obama to do the same? It seems that the Dimmo's complete incompetence in campaigning is completely ingrained into our brains.
    Obama is much more disciplined. After a quick lash at Palin from his campaign, Obama shut it down post haste. He's staying out of NOLA because it's the sane, proper thing to do.

    McCain's flailing around. Never interrupt your oppenent when he's drowning.

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    Losing the Republican Convention is a big blow. But I think it was a conscious decision - it couldn't look or feel anything like the DNC in Denver. This was just an excuse.

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    "Gustav : McCain looks presidential" is bull .
    Gustav is not the game-changer, like that nasty Palin is not the game-changer, that McConfused is desperately reaching for to save his failing campaign.

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    gallup has obama up by 6. Zogby has mcaine/palin up by two. Cnn has obama up by one. its on drudge

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    Also, some might say that McCain is being a opportunists from a bad situation...I guess it all depends on your perception....
    Yeah those people are called Democrats and those kind of comments make them look like huge assholes. They never miss a chance to put their foot in their mouths.

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    McSame's dog-and-pony show for Gustav won't overcome the millstones of the cratering economy and the unending war-for-Iraq-forever millstones around the Repugs' necks.

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