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    Mr. Dio and Brutalis...it's pretty alarming that you would attack a 17 year old pregnant girl...


    Especially since Barrack Obama's mother was a 17 year old unwed mother.


    By all means keep it up...



    Meanwhile, the Daily Kos and Democratic Underground have been deliberately publishing slanderous lies about Govenor Palin...do you care?


    No you don't. You don't care at all.


    Attack?
    r u serious man?
    I guess having an opinion is an attack?

    I didn't throw that ho in the national spotlight, she can thank her mom & "Clinging to Life" McCain for that. It was your man McCain's idiocy that brought this to light. Who would honestly care (or in your case, cry) about this) if Palin wasn't chosen by JMc to snare the femme vote?


    Who nominated Obama's mom for VP again? Refresh my memory. PLEASE, refresh my memory, who was it?
    How's that for keeping it up?

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    Why exactly is she ty? because she's pregnant? Isn't she marrying the father? I don't understand
    Yes, you do not understand. Read the first line of my post.

    "...the democratic party is not notorious for pushing a "holier than thou" group of voters behind a "we are religious and moral therefore the only real americans" mindset."
    A liberal who has a kid at 17, well, conservatives can look down on that, but liberals are liberals and by definition, big deal.

    A conservative who has a kid at 17...its hypocritical for a another conservative to gloss over this.

    Get it? You have to keep in mind where liberals and conservatives come from.

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    Yes, you do not understand. Read the first line of my post.

    "...the democratic party is not notorious for pushing a "holier than thou" group of voters behind a "we are religious and moral therefore the only real americans" mindset."
    A liberal who has a kid at 17, well, conservatives can look down on that, but liberals are liberals and by definition, big deal.

    A conservative who has a kid at 17...its hypocritical for a another conservative to gloss over this.

    Get it? You have to keep in mind where liberals and conservatives come from.
    The other thing to consider is how Rush ("Chelsea is a dog") Limbaugh and Hannity would treat the issue if it was Obama's 17 year-old daughter that was pregnant. Would they attack the issue or would they respect the notion that candidates' children are off limits? What about Fox News? What would they do?

    I would hope they wouldn't attack such an issue, but the reality is that they would.

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    Whottt the democratic party is not notorious for pushing a "holier than thou" group of voters behind a "we are religious and moral therefore the only real americans" mindset.

    @ you saying the Democrats don't have a holier than thou mindset.


    Geezus Christ.


    The Democratic Party is notorious for being on the wrong side of history at nearly every turn and then some how attributing their deeds to the Republicans.




    Barack Obama's mother being 17 years old and unwed is just that. A republican conservative mother having a ty 17 year old preggo is seen as just that.
    That's funny because the only ones I hear calling a 17 year old girl a on this forum are you, boutons, and Mr. Dio...and you guys aren't Republicans.

    It's worse for the right than the left by definition.
    Unplanned pregnancy isn't a right vs left issue...what you do with the baby is.

    Both sides don't want it to happen...both sides have it happen.


    The left advocates safe sex and is ok with abortion.

    The right advocates abstinence and isn't ok with abortion.


    Neither side has solved the issue to their satisfaction.


    The idea that 17 year old conservative girls don't get pregnant is a stupid one...because for that to be true, 17 year old boys would have to not want sex.

    A 17 year old girl with conservative parents is much more likely to wind up having the baby..., that's the difference.

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    Obama's presidency and political hopes would be dashed if he had a black pregnant 17 year old daughter. And he's a liberal.

    The only thing that really makes this hurt the republicans is that Palin is a woman. If a white conservative male VP candidate had a preggo 17 year old, while a hurricane was coming, there is a good shot it could be shot down.
    But you have to realize the same sexist country that gave Hillary a hard time might strike hard on this for a woman to be VP that has a preggo daughter.

    If the democrats were not such inept and pussy campaigners, this campaign would be as good as won for them.

    From a centrist-voter POV, McCain already has lost his "experience" attack line (not that it really worked anyways) and he has now weakened his "moral high ground" method of attack. If the democrats had a spine or intelligence amongst them, they'd keep quiet about this and let the Hurricane do its thing, then save and attack this opening ruthlessly in the debates and later into the election when McCain dares to use a moral line of attack on Obama.

    But democrats probably will do the same old and act like giant s.

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    The other thing to consider is how Rush ("Chelsea is a dog") Limbaugh and Hannity would treat the issue if it was Obama's 17 year-old daughter that was pregnant. Would they attack the issue or would they respect the notion that candidates' children are off limits? What about Fox News? What would they do?

    I would hope they wouldn't attack such an issue, but the reality is that they would.

    yeah they'd attack it!
    Not just comment on it, but realistically attack it.

    You are now going to see all the dumbasses who suck Rush's like it gives oxygen start to take the stance that it's a private/family matter & shouldn't be a public matter.

    News flash pugfuglians, YOUR candyass VP candidate is in the public eye by her own choosing! She accepted a desperate old man's invite because making a fool of herself as a sportscaster wasn't enough.

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    Just heard it on FNC. Too early for me to find a hard source to link it to. Its a fresh story so stay tuned to the networks. Martha McCallum broke it. She said her daughter is keeping the baby and that she will marry the father of the baby. Glad to see she is keeping the baby instead of aborting it like many do nowadays.
    Jamie Lynn Spears must be her role model.

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    @ you saying the Democrats don't have a holier than thou mindset.


    Geezus Christ.
    Holier? As in religious? I meant literally not figuratively. Republicans have won the last 5 presidential elections pushing a "holier than thou we are religious moral and you aren't therefore we're better americans" line and you can't deny it. And never once along the way has there been a pregnant high schooler in the picture.


    The Democratic Party is notorious for being on the wrong side of history at nearly every turn and then some how attributing their deeds to the Republicans.
    That's irrelevant in this context.





    That's funny because the only ones I hear calling a 17 year old girl a on this forum are you, boutons, and Mr. Dio...and you guys aren't Republicans.
    I'm not calling her that myself I'm playing devil's advocate

    Unplanned pregnancy isn't a right vs left issue...what you do with the baby is.

    Both sides don't want it to happen...both sides have it happen.


    The left advocates safe sex and is ok with abortion.

    The right advocates abstinence and isn't ok with abortion.


    Neither side has solved the issue to their satisfaction.


    The idea that 17 year old conservative girls don't get pregnant is a stupid one...because for that to be true, 17 year old boys would have to not want sex.

    A 17 year old girl with conservative parents is much more likely to wind up having the baby..., that's the difference.
    Of course it happens, just not in the midst of a presidential election.
    It's funny that Jamie Lynn Spears is being brought up, so let me use that as an example. Are only liberals calling Jamie Lynn Spears a stupid on the internet, on tv, etc?

    No.

    Are they really saying "But she kept the baby! It's a good thing!"

    No.

    You can't deny this damages the moral credibility of the republican party.
    It is impossible.

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    That's funny because the only ones I hear calling a 17 year old girl a on this forum are you, boutons, and Mr. Dio.



    Good ahead & quote me, just be sure to place my words next to yours.

    Go find it, where did I call that little hussy tramp of a Ho a " " on this forum?

    You took my 1st comment & YOU judged her to be a .
    Look @ my 1st comment & see how your hypocrisy has blinded you. Where did I call her a in the comment you were so quick to judge? Where again? That's what I thought.

    An adult would come back & apologize. I guess the pugfuglian party has no adults?
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    Jamie Lynn Spears must be her role model.
    Are you saying she's a ?!?!

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    Mr. Dio and Brutalis...it's pretty alarming that you would attack a 17 year old pregnant girl...


    Especially since Barrack Obama's mother was a 17 year old unwed mother.


    By all means keep it up...



    Meanwhile, the Daily Kos and Democratic Underground have been deliberately publishing slanderous lies about Govenor Palin...do you care?


    No you don't. You don't care at all.
    You mean like all the conservatives blasting all those lies spread about Obama from the likes of Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh. No, because you don't care at all. Sucks doesn't it?

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    Teen preganancy has no boundaries and it happens to well-off familes just like it does to everyone else.

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    @ you saying the Democrats don't have a holier than thou mindset.


    Geezus Christ.


    The Democratic Party is notorious for being on the wrong side of history at nearly every turn and then some how attributing their deeds to the Republicans.






    That's funny because the only ones I hear calling a 17 year old girl a on this forum are you, boutons, and Mr. Dio...and you guys aren't Republicans.



    Unplanned pregnancy isn't a right vs left issue...what you do with the baby is.

    Both sides don't want it to happen...both sides have it happen.


    The left advocates safe sex and is ok with abortion.

    The right advocates abstinence and isn't ok with abortion.


    Neither side has solved the issue to their satisfaction.


    The idea that 17 year old conservative girls don't get pregnant is a stupid one...because for that to be true, 17 year old boys would have to not want sex.

    A 17 year old girl with conservative parents is much more likely to wind up having the baby..., that's the difference.
    There you go again distorting views again. I am NOT okay with abortion but I am okay with a woman's right to choose. I would NEVER go the route of abortion if any of my daughter's ever got pregnant. NEVER. But again, I am for a woman's right to choose. But I'm not okay with abortion.
    Just like I won't allow a gun in my house but defend the right to bear arms.
    Damn I don't see what is so damn hard to understand.

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    Obama statement regarding Bristol Palin
    Politico's Carrie Budoff Brown reports: At a press avail in Monroe, Mich., Obama on Palin: "Back off these kinds of stories."

    "I have said before and I will repeat again: People's families are off limits," Obama said. "And people's chidlren are especially off limits. This shouldn't be part of politics. It has no relevance to Gov. Palin's performance as a governor and or her potential perfromance as a vice president. So I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories. You know my mother had me when she was 18 and how a family deals with issues and teenage children, that shouldn’t be a topic of our politics."

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    So did Sarah Palin make her daughter get knocked up?

    I mean what's so hard to understand?

    Parents give you guidance, Sarah's daughter had access to birth control, if she had access to have sex with a guy, she had access to birth control.

    What Palin did was admit to the daughters pregnancy rather than threaten everyone who'd break the story.

    This will only lose credibility to people like CBF and Mr Dio who don't care or give a rats ** about a persons morality or peoples religion.

    Evangelicals have a kid who backslide and get pregnant, so if anything this will only make them feel as if they have something in common with Palin. And since Evangelicals know they are sinners, this is no big deal.

    This just showed that Palin was dealt with a problem many parents face, and she stuck to her principles.

    Calling the girl a , like CbF will guarnsheed the election for McCain.

    Mr Dio calling the girl a probably indicts a third to a half of his family members who had kids out of wedlock.


    Congratulations Dio, you probably just called some of your aunts, neices, cousins a . You're a great guy.

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    Obama statement regarding Bristol Palin
    A new kind of politics indeed.

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    Mr Dio just called Obama's mom a .

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    Obama's presidency and political hopes would be dashed if he had a black pregnant 17 year old daughter. And he's a liberal.

    So you're saying liberals wouldn't support him?

    And you say the Republicans are the hypocrites?

    Because the Republicans aren't going to supprt him no matter what he is, because he's a Democrat.


    What's next, will you attempt to say the Republicans wouldn't support a woman?








    The only thing that really makes this hurt the republicans is that Palin is a woman. If a white conservative male VP candidate had a preggo 17 year old, while a hurricane was coming, there is a good shot it could be shot down.
    But you have to realize the same sexist country that gave Hillary a hard time might strike hard on this for a woman to be VP that has a preggo daughter.

    Um...the sexist ones wre the liberals in this election. The Democrats and Obama were the ones trashing Hillary...not McCain.


    Don't put this on the Republicans or I will be forced to post the countless trashings by Nbadan and co.



    Only thing I hever said about her was that she was that I don't want to have to look at her for the next 4 years...

    OTOH, I will enjoy looking at Palin for the next 4 years. And so will you.


    If the democrats were not such inept and pussy campaigners, this campaign would be as good as won for them.
    No it wouldn't...because the dudes name is Hussein, he has a pastor that says god-dm America and he doesn't put his hand over his heart when he says the pledge of allegiance.

    That's what people don't like about him, as the President of the US.


    It's just that simple...yes he has the right to do all of that stuff, and the American people have the right to not elect him President because of it.



    From a centrist-voter POV, McCain already has lost his "experience" attack line (not that it really worked anyways) and he has now weakened his "moral high ground" method of attack.

    The far right wingers hate McCain.



    If the democrats had a spine or intelligence amongst them, they'd keep quiet about this and let the Hurricane do its thing, then save and attack this opening ruthlessly in the debates and later into the election when McCain dares to use a moral line of attack on Obama.

    But democrats probably will do the same old and act like giant s.
    Ya'll have no idea how badly John McCain has owned you by selecting this woman as his VP.



    You want a real person in Washington...there she is.

    Obama? He went to Harvard...just like W.

    He's a lawyer...like 90% of the other politicians in Washington.

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    So did Sarah Palin make her daughter get knocked up?

    I mean what's so hard to understand?

    Parents give you guidance, Sarah's daughter had access to birth control, if she had access to have sex with a guy, she had access to birth control.

    What Palin did was admit to the daughters pregnancy rather than threaten everyone who'd break the story.

    This will only lose credibility to people like CBF and Mr Dio who don't care or give a rats ** about a persons morality or peoples religion.

    Evangelicals have a kid who backslide and get pregnant, so if anything this will only make them feel as if they have something in common with Palin. And since Evangelicals know they are sinners, this is no big deal.

    This just showed that Palin was dealt with a problem many parents face, and she stuck to her principles.

    Calling the girl a , like CbF will guarnsheed the election for McCain.

    Mr Dio calling the girl a probably indicts a third to a half of his family members who had kids out of wedlock.


    Congratulations Dio, you probably just called some of your aunts, neices, cousins a . You're a great guy.
    I concur. But in today's world stories like this are news and you know damn well if this was about Obama Hannity and Limbaugh would be all over it accusing him of his liberal ways poisoning his daughter judgement, blah, blah, blah.
    Oh, and Mr.Dio did not call her a ....that was Whottt putting words in his post. read again.

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    A new kind of politics indeed.


    Be sure to show CBF, Mr. Dio and boutons that Obama doesn't agree with them.

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    Obama can be the good cop, and let the rest of us knock down Palin.

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    Obama can be the good cop, and let the rest of us knock down Palin.


    Yeap...and ya'll will come off ass assholes once you do.

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    Mr Dio just called Obama's mom a .


    ActuallyI called your mom a but that was part of the script.
    That filthy of a is still trying to break into mainstream porn even though her front teeth have been broken off in all her BDSM flicks.

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    Who nominated Obama's mom for VP again? Refresh my memory. PLEASE, refresh my memory, who was it?

    The same people that nominated Palin's pregnant daughter for VP...

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    Ignignokt the Idiot


    I changed your name to something more appropriate.
    BTW, you seem really offended & like a typical hypocrite you are prob just venting at how much of your family suffers from inbreeding & some sort of mental re ation.

    I feel sorry for you.

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