Sarah Palin's 17 year old daughter is pregnant

[Buddy Holly]

Yeah he said it's O.K. to get out the coat hanger!

What? Are you brain dead?

[whottt]

So are you guys attempting to claim that parents that advocate birth control have less unplanned pregnancy?


I bet you're wrong on that.

[Buddy Holly]

So are you guys attempting to claim that parents that advocate birth control have less unplanned pregnancy?


I bet you're wrong on that.

So would you rather they not wear protection?

I honestly think people who preach "abstinence" just completely forget what it was like when they were 14, 15, or 16 years old.

[MannyIsGod]

LOL @ this thread. So funny.

[01.20.09]

Will she make the cover of OK magazine?

[Biernutz]

What? Are you brain dead?

Does Obama support abortion as a freedom of choice? Yes or No?

[Buddy Holly]

Does Obama support abortion as a freedom of choice? Yes or No?

Yes he does.

But what does that have to do with the statement you quoted?

He was talking about teaching his children to use protection so they don't get pregnant or an STD.

Again, are you brain dead?

[Buddy Holly]

http://www.libchrist.com/sexed/abstinanceMn.html

01/04/2004 - The state's $5 million abstinence-only sex education program isn't working, according to an independent study commissioned by the Minnesota Department of Health. The study found that sexual activity among junior high kids at three schools where the program was taught doubled between 2001 and 2002 -- a pattern similar to that exhibited by kids statewide -- and that the number who said they would probably have sex during high school nearly doubled, as well. The state's five-year-old abstinence-only initiative has been taught to 45,000 Minnesota kids and is funded by state and federal dollars.

[01.20.09]

1. Because I'm sure the media is salivating at the hope she would have an abortion.

BTW, she is marrying the father, so the attack dogs can chill out and hope for some other thing to attack the woman on.

Hypocrits.

Did you jump on the "Jamie Lynn Spears is white trash" bandwagon like so many conservatives did?

[Biernutz]

Yes he does.

But what does that have to do with the statement you quoted?

He was talking about teaching his children to use protection so they don't get pregnant or an STD.

Again, are you brain dead?

Would his teen have a baby or would he support an abortion to end the pregnancy?

[Buddy Holly]

http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/007772.html

Studies have shown that abstinence-only education does virtually nothing to prevent kids from having sex; the most recent one, released in April 2007, revealed that about half of all kids in both comprehensive and abstinence-only sex education programs had had sex by the end of the study period, and more than a third of both groups had had two or more partners.

The US has one of the highest teen pregnancy rates in the developed world--almost twice as high as those of England, Wales and Canada, and eight times as high as those of the Netherlands and Japan, despite similar levels of sexual activity. It's time for the US to abandon programs that don't work and try something new: Comprehensive, medically accurate, non-condescending sex education.

[Buddy Holly]

Would his teen have a baby or would he support an abortion to end the pregnancy?

He would support his teen daughter's choice.

You get it? He wants to enable her with the choice. How hard is that for some people to understand?

You lame s paint it as if he's ready to throw her down some stairs the moment his daughter tells him she's pregnant.

[Biernutz]

http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/007772.html

Quoting crap on birth control from a web site doesn't change a thing. Each family handles things the way they want. Once again move on to more compelling issue instead its bad for Palin's daughter to have a teen pregnancy but it's o.k. for Obama to be born to a teen mother.

[Buddy Holly]

I could care less about Palin's daughter being pregnant. I'm not judging her. I know women who have gotten pregnant at a young age. , I went to high school where a 13 year old was pregnant. I know it's a fact of life that young women get pregnant whether on purpose or accident.

Some too scared to buy condoms, others clueless in thinking "pulling out" works. I am speaking for both male and female here. They need the proper education in this field and not the "close your eyes, cover you ears and pretend it doesn't happen" approach.

The only thing I'm making an issue with his Sarah Palin's "abstinence only" morals which basically fell flat. Yet she'll probably still preach it to no end.

Aside from not, this is all a non-issue.

[Buddy Holly]

[LEFT]Quoting crap on birth control from a web site doesn't change a thing.

Yeah, that study is pure crap...

Live in your own little bubble.

[Wild Cobra]

Wow... after hearing this announced during the convention, I was surprised there are so many posts on subject. Then as I read them, I see many of them are petty bickering. With so many, I just quickly skimmed them, and here's a bunch I'm replying to. I may have missed some, but I wasn't going to thoroughly read so many.

Why wasn't she doing evangelical's failed wet dream of Abstinence Only birth control. Didn't she take the abstinence pledge?

I'm sure they did teach abstinence in the home, at least it's most likely they did. Even at that, you have the Department of Education that forces certain programs down kids throats. They teach that Birth control works when it is far from perfect.

Bristol is now the poster child for the FAILURE of the "Christian" supremacists' Abstinence Only bull , which dubya dumped a couple $B into, and Palin's highly effective mothering.

Wrong. All kids are rebellious by nature. No matter how well brought up, nobody is perfect. Even we adult conservatives fail to always practice as we believe is right. A major defining thing is what we do when we -up. We conservatives generally take responsibility rather than blame someone else like you lib s.

Why are your problems always president Bush's fault?

It's a 17 year-old girl going through an unplanned pregnancy in front of the national media.

This shouldn't be politicized.

I agree. If she wants to speak on the subject, then let her. Nobody should hound her though.

For someone that is so against abortion, she failed to instill in her children the value of birth control.

I don't think this should be held against her though

Really? Are also under the false assumption that birth control doesn't fail?

The only reason they pushed the news break for this was that they're hoping it will be pushed to the background by Gustav.

LOL... you think? No way. Gustav hit with a glancing blow and hit as a cat 2. I'm surprised there was as much coverage of the storm as there was.

Think about it. They were likely keeping it secret till after the election. I do believe them when they say they announced it to dispel the lies propagating about Palin's most recent son.

Thing is, you lib s believe those leftist lies all the time. Maybe now, you will do as I have asked all along....

VERIFY!

Start being a bit wiser on your posts and I will stop calling you guys LIBeral re s!

Yes, you do not understand. Read the first line of my post.

"...the democratic party is not notorious for pushing a "holier than thou" group of voters behind a "we are religious and moral therefore the only real americans" mindset."
A liberal who has a kid at 17, well, conservatives can look down on that, but liberals are liberals and by definition, big deal.

No, we look down on those who make poor choices around the subject, and cannot financially deal with a child, and/or have a missing father. In this case, as inconvenient as it is for all involved, the child will have the proper financial support and loving family.

A conservative who has a kid at 17...its hypocritical for a another conservative to gloss over this.

Why? We are not perfect. We make mistakes. We applaud those who do the best they can in dealing with their mistakes.

Get it? You have to keep in mind where liberals and conservatives come from.

Yes:

Liberal = not my fault, not my responsibility, etc.

Conservative = Ooops... I made a mistake, What can I do to make good on it, etc.

I think she's qualified to be VP...I actually like her better than McCain. Matter of fact...she has probably swung me to voting for McCain.

I agree with you here. Before, I was going to vote for Bob Barr. Now I will support John McCain.

I'm actually not afraid of this woman becoming President at all.

Neither am I. Never was, never will be. Anyone who doesn't play the race or gender card and has executive experience is qualified in my eyes. That still doesn't mean I like their politics!

That's my point though. She doesn't have the option of having an abortion. Her mother opposes abortion even in cases of rape or incest, so having one because you're not ready for a child is out of the question. The simple truth is that she has to keep the child. That's not necessarily a bad thing for her because that's what her family believes is the right thing to do. And I am sure that unlike other young women, she has the family structure in place to help her through this life-changing event. My issue is why give her credit for such a "choice," in light of the fact that Gov. Palin would deny others the opportunity to make the same choice.

You know you're wrong, don't you?

She could have had an abortion and her parents would have never known.

LOL I love it when right wing nut jobs are exposed for being idiots and frauds.

No, it is your perception of conservatives that is being proven to be wrong.

Sarah Palin's daughter has just provided a great example for why abstinence-only education FAILS.

Really? You mean the Department of Education let her schools teach abstinence only?

BTW, when used correctly, birth control is about 99% effective against preventing pregnancy. Condoms (when used correctly) are only about 85% effective, but are about 99% effective against preventing disease transmission.

Dah-Dah...

We have a winner!

Not 100% effective!

Ever stop to consider that she used birth control?

[Biernutz]

Yeah, that study is pure crap...

Live in your own little bubble.

Anyone can find a study on the internet to support their side of any discussion. Ain't the internet grand. Thanks Al Gore!

[Buddy Holly]

Then it'll be no problem for you to find a study supporting your side.

Yes, the internet is grand. Now go, go find the easily findable study,

[Biernutz]

Then it'll be no problem for you to find a study supporting your side.

Yes, the internet is grand. Now go, go find the easily findable study,

I don't need a $1 billion government study to tell you this. You can tell teen's how to have safe sex but just remember one thing, teen's are teen's and they will do pretty much what the want to do. That includes safe sex and abstinence. When you become a teen you will see.

[MannyIsGod]

Obviously we're in this situation because of the movie Juno. Pallin let her daughter watch it and she figured teenage pregnancy was cool!

[ChumpDumper]

I know a 30-year old who got knocked up because of that movie.

[Mr Dio]

btw when used correctly, abstinance is 100% effective against preventing pregnancy.
Your argument is moot.

Let parents raise their children however they want. i was raised to abstain. Didn't need a counselor to tell me that condoms existed.

1) It didn't help your mom when she was raped & had you. (I do feel sorry for her though.)

2) You didn't abstain as much as the dudes in your middle school find you ugly.

[Mr. Peabody]

Obviously we're in this situation because of the movie Juno. Pallin let her daughter watch it and she figured teenage pregnancy was cool!

Honest to blog?






It should be noted that I just saw it today with my wife, which it how I know the dialogue

[MrChug]

Bristol Palin sounds like a pharameutical company.

DAMNIT! I just bought stock in that, you mean it's not!?!? .

[boutons_]

McSame's mucky-mucks admit that they vetted Palin in person, and learned about the pregnancy.