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    you and your party just plain suck and the sheeple need to leave that party. vote Bob Barr, not John Mcain. If you are a true conservative.
    A true conservative that is gonna do all he can do to make damn sure a true liberal doesn't get elected, first and foremost. Voting for Barr would not serve that end; but then I wouldn't expect a liberal such as yourself to grasp that logic; your sort has a serious problem with the entire concept.

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    No, not particularly. New month; just got our financials from the CFO - looking good.
    your the owner, right? how many employees?

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    That my country is moving away from the corrupt leadership of Republicans.
    Do you not remember the corrupt leadership of the Democrats?

    If I spent my days looking to Washington for a sense of pride in my country, I'd be as bitter, disillusioned and disenfranchised as you seem to be.

    Went to Philly and NYC; stopped by West Point; saw an air show...this summer; about a billion things to be proud of in each of those places, and in all the towns I passed as I drove there. Drank some beers with my grandpa's B-17 crew (what's left of them); spent a week with a German family who visited us this summer - and after talking about THEIR country and daily lives; thank the Good Lord for MY country.

    I'm proud of my country all the damn time, but almost NEVER because of what happens in Washington ing D.C.

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    That my country is moving away from the corrupt leadership of Republicans. We are shaking free of those bonds. That a large portion of the population previously uninvolved and distressed with public discourse are now getting involved. That civil society may replace cynicism and cronyism.

    This is inspiring and thrilling. I'm sorry you're not along for the ride.
    I'm pretty sure Obama is going to win the election (although I'm not happy about it), so the only thing I'm really all that interested in for November is to see if the above statement is true. Will voter turnout be any different then usual. My guess is no.

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    your the owner, right? how many employees?
    Me and my brother.

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    Me and my brother.

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    i think its funny to throw around the le of CFO when discussing such small business.

    is this an accountant that requested that le?

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    i think its funny to throw around the le of CFO when discussing such small business.

    is this an accountant that requested that le?


    Huge a-hole forum.

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    Do you not remember the corrupt leadership of the Democrats?

    If I spent my days looking to Washington for a sense of pride in my country, I'd be as bitter, disillusioned and disenfranchised as you seem to be.

    Went to Philly and NYC; stopped by West Point; saw an air show...this summer; about a billion things to be proud of in each of those places, and in all the towns I passed as I drove there. Drank some beers with my grandpa's B-17 crew (what's left of them); spent a week with a German family who visited us this summer - and after talking about THEIR country and daily lives; thank the Good Lord for MY country.

    I'm proud of my country all the damn time, but almost NEVER because of what happens in Washington ing D.C.
    One thing I care about is the Cons ution. Don't know if you do, but it's been warped and degraded quite a bit in the last eight years. The Executive has been ac ulating powers and civil rights have been intruded upon. If there's one thing I know about Obama is that of all candidates - Clinton and McCain included - he was the only one liable to roll those gains back. As a Cons utional scholar, and judging by his briefs and opinions, he believes in strong checks and balances.

    See, I love the way the Framers and Founders put together this country. I hate crony-capitalism, no matter which party does it. And yes, I care what happens in Washington, because that happens to be our nation's capital. The Bush-Cheney years were a deep insult to all of us -- regardless of whether you think so or not -- and are years I will never forget. I want to be proud of this country. Together we can, again.

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    i think its funny to throw around the le of CFO when discussing such small business.

    is this an accountant that requested that le?
    Actually a fair question.

    Nope; but my clients like to see that we have one; our business is all about cash and money flow; at any one time we have millions of dollars of OTHER people's money in our care; wouldn't need a CFO for my own company's books.

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    A true conservative that is gonna do all he can do to make damn sure a true liberal doesn't get elected, first and foremost. Voting for Barr would not serve that end; but then I wouldn't expect a liberal such as yourself to grasp that logic; your sort has a serious problem with the entire concept.
    So let me get this staright a 'true conservative' doesn't vote for 'true conservatives' rather they vote against liberals.

    Am I correct in interpreting your logic?

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    A true conservative that is gonna do all he can do to make damn sure a true liberal doesn't get elected, first and foremost.
    This is very childish. If the Dems atrophy and grow corrupt in the next decade or two, I will go elsewhere. I'm not attached via umbilical cord to some stupid party. A degree of fiscal conservation is very, very smart; but only one party shows any signs of balancing a budget and paying for what it spends. And that is not the Republican party - and really has not been for almost three decades now.

    If you're a social conservative, then I really don't care. The idea of curtailing another person's rights because of what I believe is frankly unAmerican and odious to me.

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    One thing I care about is the Cons ution. Don't know if you do, but it's been warped and degraded quite a bit in the last eight years. The Executive has been ac ulating powers and civil rights have been intruded upon. If there's one thing I know about Obama is that of all candidates - Clinton and McCain included - he was the only one liable to roll those gains back. As a Cons utional scholar, and judging by his briefs and opinions, he believes in strong checks and balances.

    See, I love the way the Framers and Founders put together this country. I hate crony-capitalism, no matter which party does it. And yes, I care what happens in Washington, because that happens to be our nation's capital. The Bush-Cheney years were a deep insult to all of us -- regardless of whether you think so or not -- and are years I will never forget. I want to be proud of this country. Together we can, again.
    The cons ution has been warped and degraded since John Marshall, friend. I didn't say I didn't pay attention to what happens in Washington; I said I wasn't proud of what happens in Washington.

    George Bush isn't running for election? But, go ahead, keep running against Bush, and I hope Obama does, as well; then ALL McCain has to do is distance HIMSELF, and the election is in the bag. There isn't a Republican in Washington that is better positioned to do just that; he's been a thorn in the Administration's side, after all.

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    Actually a fair question.

    Nope; but my clients like to see that we have one; our business is all about cash and money flow; at any one time we have millions of dollars of OTHER people's money in our care; wouldn't need a CFO for my own company's books.
    @ some of the smoke and mirrors we use to impress the impressionable.

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    The cons ution has been warped and degraded since John Marshall, friend. I didn't say I didn't pay attention to what happens in Washington; I said I wasn't proud of what happens in Washington.

    George Bush isn't running for election? But, go ahead, keep running against Bush, and I hope Obama does, as well; then ALL McCain has to do is distance HIMSELF, and the election is in the bag. There isn't a Republican in Washington that is better positioned to do just that; he's been a thorn in the Administration's side, after all.
    So all McCain needs to do is flip-flop again?

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    I can see why someone in a swing state would vote for the lesser of two evils from the major parties. On the other hand, the threat of third party votes losing swing states for one of the major parties would help influence party direction in future elections.

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    This is very childish. If the Dems atrophy and grow corrupt in the next decade or two, I will go elsewhere. I'm not attached via umbilical cord to some stupid party. A degree of fiscal conservation is very, very smart; but only one party shows any signs of balancing a budget and paying for what it spends. And that is not the Republican party - and really has not been for almost three decades now.

    If you're a social conservative, then I really don't care. The idea of curtailing another person's rights because of what I believe is frankly unAmerican and odious to me.
    I'd take a Republican Congress and Dem in the White House, frankly; THAT is the recipe that worked. Gingrich doesn't get enough credit for holding the line on budgets during the 90's, frankly. Him stepping out on his wife, coupled with impeaching Clinton hurt a lot.

    If you think Barrack, Pelosi and Reed are gonna turn out budgets that look anything like Clinton, Gingrich and Lott; you're delusional.

    You aren't gonna curtail anyone's rights? Really? If I don't like black people, can I not let them in my store? There are some rights that need to be curtailed, and most of us agree on them...the rest we discuss and come to a consensus - or argue about them forever, but that is the nature of the beast.

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    So all McCain needs to do is flip-flop again?
    I haven't seen the McCain add where he glorifies the current administration. I haven't seen him defend over and over all of the administration's actions. McCain talks about himself, and his positions - some are the same as Bush's, some are different.

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    You aren't gonna curtail anyone's rights? Really? If I don't like black people, can I not let them in my store? There are some rights that need to be curtailed, and most of us agree on them...the rest we discuss and come to a consensus - or argue about them forever, but that is the nature of the beast.
    Specious argument and you know it.

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    So let me get this staright a 'true conservative' doesn't vote for 'true conservatives' rather they vote against liberals.

    Am I correct in interpreting your logic?
    Yeah, pretty close.

    Gonna vote for the most conservative person who has a shot at getting elected.

    Don't remember if you were one of them, but there were several Hillary supporters on the board; are they gonna write her in?

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    Specious argument and you know it.
    Not 45 years ago it wasn't.

    It was a right to not let people in your store based on any number of factors including race. It is a right that no longer exists, and shouldn't have existed. People had strong feelings on both sides, and I have a feeling the argument you made, about not wanting to dictate to other people what they can or cannot do, was made by some very hateful bigots trying to take the moral high road when they had no right to it.

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