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i dont disagree with what you said in the linked post. just the way you discredit his accomplishment.
T-Mac's 13 pts in 35 seconds
Kobe's 81 pt game
oh wow a homer laker fan. or kobe sucker, perhaps i should say.You talk as if you have never even seen Kobe play. Wes Matthews for the showtime Lakers did something similiar to what T-mac did. I think the two is no comparison in my opinion. Anyone who has ever played ball knows that scoring 81 points is unthinkable!!! Kobe made it look easy. Lebrons 29 was great but Kobe dropped 30 on the Mavs in 1 quarter!!!
Oh, and how about this for clutch
i dont disagree with what you said in the linked post. just the way you discredit his accomplishment.
shows how narrowminded you really are.
give me Lebrons 29, or Magic's 44, or Isaiah's busted ankle game over Wilt's 100 in a HEARTBEAT.
You know what... the simple fact that you are a Sonics fan raises questions about your rationalization skills
You shouldn't take people's screen names fav. team into too much into account around here.
From 1990 through the 2000-01 season, the season before zone defenses were allowed, there were twelve 50 point games by traditional low post big men (Shaq 3, Karl Malone 3, David Robinson 3, Hakeem, Chris Webber, and Alonzo Mourning). So even in the era of no zone defenses, during that twelve seasons prior to zone defenses being allowed, big men averaged one 50 point game each season.
The season zone defenses were allowed in 2001-02, there were two 50 point games by traditional low post big men (Tim Duncan, Shareef Abdur Rahim).
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slu...v=st&type=lgns
I didn't count Antawn Jamison, Tom Chambers, or Terry mings as traditional low post big men, although you could argue mings was.
Just because Wilt Chamberlain scored 50 points like it was 25 points back in his era, it doesn't mean it was common place for big men before zone defenses. It was still a rare occurrence. And, the NBA changed from the late 1980s and beyond. It became a guard-oriented game. Guards got bigger and could score inside, and you add the three point line and individual style scoring mimicking Michael Jordan, you got more opportunity for guards to score more at a higher rate.
It's not because of zone defenses.
Mono...you still fascinate me with your weak takes and complete hate for one player. You're so transparent it's comical. I understand being young and a mavs fan is a poor combination for any basketball a en. Still, you take the cake. Enjoy your revisionist history and I'll enjoy mine.
For everyone's benefit I used Babel Fish to translate Medvedenko's previous comment from bag Lakerfan to English. You're welcome.
Thanks, I thought you should use "Gematria" next in your analysis......
I can't wait for the season to start so you can start worrying about your mavs.
Isiah and LeBron's performances were both great but nothing compares to Jordan's flu game in the 97 NBA Finals. I remember it quite well because I saw history in person. What Jordan did that game is second to none.
This poll shouldn't be close, but given the sheer number of Kobe haters (which ironically includes the entire Mav fan base.....yes all 5 of you!) I'm not surprised.
Hi Jeff.
....case in pointHi Jeff.
Tmac.
Wilt's 100 does come within a context - it wasn't done in a compe ive game. Much different than Kobe leading his team from behind.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilt_Ch...100-point_gameThe first 42 minutes
From the beginning, Chamberlain's Warriors dominated against the Knicks. After a few minutes, the Warriors led 19-3, and their star center had already scored 13 points. At the end of the first quarter, the Knicks trailed 42-26, and in his typical style, Chamberlain had finger-rolled, dunked and jump-shot his way to 23 points.[2] Imhoff was soon benched in foul trouble.[6] By halftime, the Warriors had lost some of their edge, but still led with 79-68. After 24 minutes, Chamberlain's point total stood at 41. However, as he scored 60 or more points 32 times, the Warriors felt little excitement about this fact. "I often came into the locker room with 30 or 35 points, therefore, 41 points was not a big deal", he later explained.[2] Warriors coach Frank McGuire ordered his men to feed Chamberlain: "Wilt is always open, so pass him the ball".[2]
The simple tactic proved unstoppable. Soon, he had surpassed the 50-point barrier, causing arena speaker Dave Zinkoff[7] to fire up the previously sleepy crowd. He also kept his cool despite getting perpetually triple- and quadruple-teamed by the Knicks, who did not shy away from hard fouls to distract the center. McGuire was irate and demanded that the referees call more fouls, but Chamberlain could not be stopped.[8] He scored another 28 points to lift his Warriors to a commanding 125-104 lead when the third quarter ended. His own total stood at 69, nine shy of his previous scoring record. Knicks third center Dave Budd, who alternated with the foul-troubled Imhoff at pivot, later stated resistance was practically futile: "You couldn't play [Chamberlain] conventionally because he was so big. The only thing you could attempt to do was either front him, and in that case they'd try to lob it in to him, or beat him down the floor and set up where he wanted to get and force him out a couple of extra steps. The guy weighed 300 or 270 [pounds], so that wasn't easy, either."[3] Darrall Imhoff later even stated, "He literally stuffed us through the hoop with the ball. It didn't even help we quintuple-teamed him." Chamberlain at first thought he would possibly break a free throw shooting record,[8] but stated that at the end of the third quarter he realised he could break his own 75-point scoring record (for a 48-minute game) or his record 78 points, set in double overtime.[8]
In the fourth quarter, 7:51 minutes were left to play when Chamberlain scored his 79th point, breaking his own record and sending the crowd into a frenzy. The 4,124 spectators screamed "Give it to Wilt! Give it to Wilt!" The Warriors suddenly sensed that they could write basketball history, and fed Chamberlain the ball at every attack. Warrior Al Attles later explained: "We wanted that Wilt got the record, because we all liked him." Attles himself led by example, passing up on an easy layup so that Chamberlain could score points 88 and 89, five minutes before the end. In addition, Warriors guard Guy Rodgers would end the game with 20 assists.[2]
[edit] Frantic last minutes
However, according to all eye-witnesses, the game became a farce. Fearing ultimate humiliation if Chamberlain scored 100 points on them, the Knicks blindly fouled any Warrior except Chamberlain, to force them to hit free throws and keep the ball out of the center's hands.[2] Effectively, they played the opposite of what a normal club would do if they faced a deficit, willingly giving up many easy points instead of making attempts to rally back.[8] Warriors coach Frank McGuire reacted by pulling off his entire starting five save Chamberlain (i.e. forwards Tom Meschery, Al Attles and guards Guy Rodgers and Paul Arizin) and sent in bench players Joe Ruklick, York Larese, Ed Conlin and Ted Luckenbill. The intention was to foul the Knicks, in order to get the ball back after free throws and give Chamberlain the ball. Thus each team spent the last minutes fouling each other.[8]
Opinions were split on this matter. Warriors forward Tom Meschery said: "The rival [New York] was not going to become a part of the history. During last minutes the coach told them to foul anyone with the ball – anyone but Chamberlain. So we had to throw-in from the side line across the floor just to pass the ball to him."[4] However, Knicks player Richie Guerin, who scored 39 points, put the blame on the Warriors and complained: "The Warriors used any means [i.e., fouling tactics] to get the ball to Chamberlain. This had nothing to do with basketball anymore."[8] In any case, the Warriors ended with 25 personal fouls, and the Knicks with 32, and lost Imhoff and Willie Naulls with six fouls.[2]
With 2:45 left, Chamberlain had 94 points, and after scoring on a jump shot and a layup, he stood at 98 with less than a minute to play. Facing a quintuple-team by the entire Knicks team, Chamberlain trotted into the low post.[8] At the next play, Ruklick passed to Guy Rodgers, who passed to Chamberlain close to the basket. After missing his first shot, Luckenbill rebounded and passed to Chamberlain, but he missed again. Luckenbill again rebounded and this time passed to Ruklick: instead of going for an easy layup, he immediately lobbed a high pass to Chamberlain.[9] With 46 seconds left, Chamberlain got free from the five Knicks, jumped high and stuffed the ball through the hoop for an alley-oop slam dunk to hit the century mark.[2] The arena exploded in a frenzy. Over 200 spectators stormed the floor, wanting to touch the hero of the night.[8] Ruklick himself immediately ran to the scorer's table, and made sure the statisticians noted that he was credited with the assist.[9]
Last edited by 2Cleva; 09-02-2008 at 07:51 PM.
Kobe's 81 point game is booty. Look who it was against. Give me a ing break. It's like trying to pitch Robinson's 71 point game against the Clippers. Sure I'm glad he won the scoring le but he was not the best scorer in the league that year.
I voted for Kobe you gobbler.
Kobe's 62pts in three quarters against Mav's 61pts, now THAT is impressive!!
I think people fail to realize how incredibly difficult it is to score 80+ points in a ing NBA game, regardless of the compe ion.
MJ never came close, and don't give me any BS that he could have if he wanted to. He was very much a me-first player in his younger days when he was averaging 30+ ppg.
I agree outscoring the entire Mav team...... ing incredible.Kobe's 62pts in three quarters against Mav's 61pts, now THAT is impressive!!
76 is pretty close. but yeah, 80 is very hard to attain.
the fact that it was against a D-league..ish team dilutes it a bit. Tmac's was against prime talent.
As if the Lakers were any better that season? That D-League team had a 15 pt lead on the Lakers until Kobe exploded in the 2nd half.
1) http://www.nba.com/jordan/jordan_63moments.html
63. In the playoffs. Against a MUCH better team. I'd say that comes close.
2) http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...50C0A966958260
69, against a team I consider to be better than the 05-06 Raptors:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CLE/1990.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/TOR/2006.html
I'd consider that to be 'close' as well.
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