That would explain why Hoffman has 6 losses but only 4 blown saves.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/player...?playerId=2817That would explain why Hoffman has 6 losses but only 4 blown saves.
Here's Trevor Hoffman's game log. Notice June 1 and April 2 where he was awarded both a loss AND a blown save.
I know it's tough for your Simple Jack mind to comprehend, but closers don't exclusively come into a game during a save situation. They can get a loss without a blown save if they aren't in position to save the game in the first place.
Especially closers who suck like Hoffman, et ux.
Maybe if you draw him a picture. Or better yet, monoslab do you ever actually watch a Padres game from Moms basement? Or do you just live in a stat box on the Inet, keyboard commando style? We know the answer to that. Thanks for strengthening the case against Hoffman. Closers can also blow a save and get a win.
Hey, Simple Jack, just because you don't understand the rules of when a pitcher is awarded a blown save doesn't mean you have to further make a jackass of yourself. Get back to me when you aren't talking with your head shoved up your ass.
Very good monoslob! Ducks and i were wrong. Since you are in such dire need of validation and attention that you could google the saves definition, here it is.
To the point of the thread, when ATrain said "26 saves with only 6 blown", that was my reason for bringing up the losses. Of Hoffmans 6 losses, 4 were in non save situations. So again, thank you for strengthening the case against Hoffman.
But leave it to you to try to switch the entire conversation not about Hoffman or Gagne, but to a narrow definition of saves, which once again we give you validation, you googled it correctly. Ducks, put the pacifyer back in monos mouth for his reward.
I wasn't switching it either way. I think Hoffman sucks, look and find where I ever said otherwise. Like I said, I enjoyed watching two re s go at it, then I decided to step in when it got a little too rough. Nice try, Simple Jack.
most closers suck in non closes situations
I do not understand how managers keep putting them in those places
THEY SUCK !
Right monoslob. Like your intention was anything but being Keyboard Commando Troll.
Well your hero Hoffman got another *save* tonight. Or rather could we get you to google it and make sure it was by the rules?
5-2 lead and he starts the 9th and gets three outs. That's a *save*.
It's good that you're finally figuring this out, Simple Jack. Maybe for our next lesson you can learn how to compute a pitcher's ERA. No, no, that's still to hard for you. Okay, next time I'll teach you what a home run is! Yay for you, Simple Jack!
Or maybe you can teach me how to be fooled by the Onion.
To the threads point, Gagne blew yet another save, a 2-1 lead in the 8th vs the mighty Padres.
So long, Simple Crack.
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