McCain hits a home run

[T Park]

This would be the first time I ever heard that.

3rd grade, 8th grade, whatever, I know that they always reference him when talking about him not having a more than a ____ education. Can't remember what it is off the top of my head.

[whottt]

W barely passed his courses and it's obvious his daddy had a hand in it. "C" average... by the grace of daddy's money.

Obama was from a relatively poor family. He EARNED his way into Harvard and instructed at the University of Chicago, the latter of which is not well known but has always been one of the top 10 universities in the country. It's not a status-university, and if you don't know your there they will kick you out instantly.

I never said Obama wasn't smart....

[Nbadan]

i think it's funny how Wing-nuts always bring up absurd exceptions to make their point - like the whole white conservative thingy - but, but......Condi Rice is black -- get the out of here.... you don't hear Demos pulling out token blacks...

[ducks]

I never said Obama wasn't smart....

I will say he is stupid

[whottt]

W barely passed his courses and it's obvious his daddy had a hand in it. "C" average... by the grace of daddy's money.

No ...that's why I said I think it's where rich idiots go to get degrees to prove they aren't idiots.


Thank you for agreeing with me.

[ducks]

i think it's funny how Wing-nuts always bring up absurd exceptions to make their point - like the whole white conservative thingy - but, but......Condi Rice is black -- get the out of here.... you don't hear Demos pulling out token blacks...

who cares what color your skin is

[timvp]

Apparently, he just got stupider.

My condolences.

Truthfully though, I don't think he got "smarter" than he was four years ago. He does have an impressive piece of paper now that cost I don't know how many tens of thousands of dollars.

Oh and yeah, the average Yale student would make Nbadan seem conservative.

[Cry Havoc]

3rd grade, 8th grade, whatever, I know that they always reference him when talking about him not having a more than a ____ education. Can't remember what it is off the top of my head.

Way to prove how stupid those people who go to college are.

[ducks]

I bet it is close to $50,000.00

[Nbadan]

No ...that's why I said I think it's where rich idiots go to get degrees to prove they aren't idiots.

It's also where the economists go that say that the Bush economy is growing and inflation is next to nothing...so you may have a point...

[T Park]

i think it's funny how Wing-nuts always bring up absurd exceptions to make their point - like the whole white conservative thingy - but, but......Condi Rice is black -- get the out of here.... you don't hear Demos pulling out token blacks...

WTF are you babbling about now soldier hater?

[Kori Ellis]

Depends on how you decide to educate yourself.....you want a dime a dozen business degree? Psychology? Or a profitable science degree?

I'll agree with this (even though I have my dime-a-dozen MBA ). Some social science/liberal arts degrees are pretty useless unless you are planning to go onto grad school to teach. I know many people who go get an undergrad liberal arts degree and then get the same job that they could have gotten straight out of high school.

Though honestly I don't knock anyone for going to college because I think it's an great life-learning experience.

Obviously if you are getting into the sciences, medicine, law, etc, then those degrees are essential.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

3rd grade, 8th grade, whatever, I know that they always reference him when talking about him not having a more than a college education. Can't remember what it is off the top of my head.

Fixed it for you.

He was an unenthusiastic student, but he still graduated with a degree in physics.

[Mr. Peabody]

Timvp speaks the truth...


Bill Gates had no college education when he founded Microsoft....

Bill Gates went to Harvard University and was an exceptional student there. He also met many of his future business partners there. He eventually dropped out, but to say he had no college education is slightly misleading. He had a better college education most people.

I also think you have a slight problem with causality here, but I do understand the point you are trying to make.

[baseline bum]

3rd grade, 8th grade, whatever, I know that they always reference him when talking about him not having a more than a ____ education. Can't remember what it is off the top of my head.

You heard wrong. Einstein got degrees in math and physics.

[whottt]

What really scares me is that while Republicans knew Bush wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed(and that wasn't why they voted for him), the Democrats actually thought Kerry was intelligent. He was as stupid as Bush, worse at business...and more beholden to his Father.

[ducks]

romney said he would run in 2012 if McCain loses

[timvp]

Speaking of Bush, I thought it was interesting that McCain even acknowledged him. Many were expecting he wouldn't even say that word during his speech. Bush bashing has become so prevalent it now borders on cliche. McCain bit the bullet on that one and got it out of the way.

Come November, I might halfway root for Obama to win just because it'd be hilarious to see what those people who live life just to bash Bush end up doing. That outrage and hatred that is so hip to display vanishing overnight might be too much for some to handle. Where all that energy will end up going I have no idea.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

I'm already tired of hearing "hockey mom".

[whottt]

Bottomline is that Obama, McCain, Palin and Biden are all better communicators than the guys in 04 and smarter than the guys we had to choose from in 04...which was the worst group of candidates in American history. We're going to be better off(or at least more at peace) no matter who wins.

[T Park]

Speaking of Bush, I thought it was interesting that McCain even acknowledged him. Many were expecting he wouldn't even say that word during his speech. Bush bashing has become so prevalent it now borders on cliche. McCain bit the bullet on that one and got it out of the way.

Come November, I might halfway root for Obama to win just because it'd be hilarious to see what those people who live life just to bash Bush end up doing. That outrage and hatred that is so hip to display vanishing overnight might be too much for some to handle. Where all that energy will end up going I have no idea.

Ya know, theres a part of me that wants to see him elected, then he says something stupid or s up and then lets see what the Jon Stewarts and Bill Mahers of the world would do.

[whottt]

BTW timvp...I wasn't trying to take a shot your bro. Had no clue he is going to Yale when I made that statement. I imagine he's pretty smart.


You are one of the smartest dudes I know when the subject isn't basketball

[T Park]

I'm already tired of hearing "hockey mom".

I'm tired of the BS "More of the same"

[T Park]

Bottomline is that Obama, McCain, Palin and Biden are all better communicators than the guys in 04 and smarter than the guys we had to choose from in 04...which was the worst group of candidates in American history. We're going to be better off(or at least more at peace) no matter who wins.

The only hope I have if Obama wins, is the Republicans gain some seats, their sanity and fiscal responsibility and we go back to the Clinton days.

[Whisky Dog]

I'm tired of election year. Wish it was over.