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    Why would Iran, or any country for that matter, risk being wiped off the face of the earth by the US?
    Exactly. The threat of force from the US is real. Show weakness and see how Hezbolah runs wild. Libs will give their terrorist attacks some type of moral equivalency and the terrorist will get all sorts of chances.

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    i'm still a bit ticked about the gallaher sale......and that was last year.
    why be ticked when the profit goes to someone else.

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    I'm voting for Obama and I am not an idiot. Like Joe Chalupa said, I don't want four more years of Bush policies dominating the country. We are in two wars right now, the economy is , and education is (thanks to No Child Left Behind).

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    why be ticked when the profit goes to someone else.
    i'm also a fund raiser for the leukemia and lymphoma society.

    couldn't you (at least) have donated that piece of tv to CCF?

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    I think Obama is probably going to end up getting about 1,000 votes nationwide by the time this whole election thing is over, with the vast majority of those votes coming from some tight-knit, anti-Irish burg in West Virginia where electricity hasn't yet been provided.

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    Ah, you've gone and just made it so that in your head, murder is acceptable, because murder is fine without consequences, oops... "legal" consequences.
    you truly need to learn to read. I'll simplify it for you, there are legal consequences for killing another human being except when your life is in danger because of that person.

    Abortion extends those rights to a form of contraception.


    Well guess what, just like the death penalty has no "legal" consequences, neither does abortion.
    the legal consequence is death. I murder you and then I lose my life.
    Abortion is I murder my kid because as in the words of Obama, a kid is punishment.

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    i'm also a fund raiser for the leukemia and lymphoma society.

    couldn't you (at least) have donated that piece of tv to CCF?
    do you really donate all of your profits on all of your investments?

    btw, how do I send a tv to CCF?

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    you truly need to learn to read. I'll simplify it for you, there are legal consequences for killing another human being except when your life is in danger because of that person.

    Abortion extends those rights to a form of contraception.
    No, I understood you. But go ahead and make it so it's ok.


    the legal consequence is death. I murder you and then I lose my life.
    Abortion is I murder my kid because as in the words of Obama, a kid is punishment.
    Right, because everyone who's ever murder has has lost their lives. , get a good enough lawyer and you can get off scot-free.

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    Murder is murder. You take a life, you take a life.
    if that's your stance then why the double standard?



    Right, because everyone who's ever murder has has lost their lives. , get a good enough lawyer and you can get off scot-free.
    You asked about the death penalty and i told you it was a legal consequence. Now I agree with you many lawyers and legislators have perverted our system of justice.

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    do you really donate all of your profits on all of your investments?
    i was wondering why you would make that initial claim. care to explain?

    btw, how do I send a tv to CCF?
    i would suspect you'd know.

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    I can't watch video from this computer, so you're going to have to explain your position to me.

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    if that's your stance then why the double standard?
    That's not my double standard, that's yours.

    I'm fine with Judges having the right to put someone to death if it's called for. I'm also fine with a woman having the right to decide for herself.

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    I can't watch video from this computer, so you're going to have to explain your position to me.
    It's Carlin's Back in Town special. The first 15 minutes deal with woman's rights, abortion, life and death.

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    i was wondering why you would make that initial claim. care to explain?
    You told me one time that you would donate all of your investments profits for the benefit of old people and that my unwillingness to do so was uncaring.

    i would suspect you'd know.
    not without customs stealing or taxing the crap out of it where my kid couldn't afford to get it. Gifts have to be small. btw, it's a great charity where anyone, even students, can make a real difference. Politics has nothing to do with it, because all sorts of people particiate.

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    Well I am:
    anti - killing babies (well, thats one way to put it)
    anti - raising taxes (who isnt?)
    anti - allowing illegals to become citizens with no problem (John McCain says " o")
    anti - universal healthcare (fair)
    anti - reparations for slavery (...from left field, here comes...?)
    anti - cutting and running in Iraq (nice use of the party-approved line)
    Youre a Mavrick.

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    You told me one time that you would donate all of your investments profits for the benefit of old people and that my unwillingness to do so was uncaring.
    i never told you that

    not without customs stealing or taxing the crap out of it where my kid couldn't afford to get it. Gifts have to be small. btw, it's a great charity where anyone, even students, can make a real difference. Politics has nothing to do with it, because all sorts of people particiate.
    good for you......and i mean that sincerely

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    Yes i worked hard my whole life to get a good job. My company pays for my healthcare. I have worked very hard in order for that to happen.
    you are one, ONE of the lucky ones.....i too, along with many, MANY other citizens who have worked long, and hard to to establish themselves in the company, only to get axed. with no kiss goodbye. no health care. nothing. some with only a sign on the door, indicating they have closed.

    what do you tell the 40-ish person then? it's ok, just start over.

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    That's not my double standard, that's yours.
    here's the double standard. YOu said, and I quote, " Murder is Murder. You take a life, then you take a life". I know you were talking about the death penalty, but why wouldn't that standard apply to abortion?

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    will abortion be illegal if mccain is president?

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    you are one, ONE of the lucky ones.....i too, along with many, MANY other citizens who have worked long, and hard to to establish themselves in the company, only to get axed. with no kiss goodbye. no health care. nothing. some with only a sign on the door, indicating they have closed.

    what do you tell the 40-ish person then? it's ok, just start over.
    you have no choice but to pick yourself back up and continue life. You will receive a helping hand from the government in the form of Unemployement which btw McCain talked about yesterday.

    My recommendation would be to downsize, get the best job you can quickly, live frugaly and save your ass off. Forget materialism, because it's a path to nowhere.

    As far as healthcare, I'm with you all the way. The government should just whipe away all of their health programs, do away with all health related tax deductions, and give everyone a health care voucher good for basic coverage with any carrier. Each carrier would be required to carry a basic policy and couldn't deny anyone.

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    will abortion be illegal if mccain is president?
    no, but I'm all for increased scrutiny. Most of these abortions are being used as a form of contraception. We need those people to use Rubbers, and not only to avoid abortion, but also for a whole host of other reasons.

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    here's the double standard. YOu said, and I quote, " Murder is Murder. You take a life, then you take a life". I know you were talking about the death penalty, but why wouldn't that standard apply to abortion?
    No, I was putting that out there as your way of looking at things. Because you asked me if you could murder without consequences.

    Again, I have no problem with the death penalty, when they deserve it and that's a slippery slope and I also have no problem with a woman having the right to choose to have a abortion or not. I wouldn't root for an abortion and I wouldn't root for no abortion, I'd let the person carrying the baby decide that.

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    no, but I'm all for increased scrutiny. Most of these abortions are being used as a form of contraception. We need those people to use Rubbers, and not only to avoid abortion, but also for a whole host of other reasons.
    yeah, the "abstinence" program is backed by complete morons.

    do you know anybody that promotes that?

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    No, I was putting that out there as your way of looking at things. Because you asked me if you could murder without consequences.
    you brought the death penalty into the conversation. I'm just responsiding to what you're saying.

    Again, I have no problem with the death penalty, when they deserve it and that's a slippery slope and I also have no problem with a woman having the right to choose to have a abortion or not. I wouldn't root for an abortion and I wouldn't root for no abortion, I'd let the person carrying the baby decide that.
    you're consistent which is good, but abortion is still killing a kid that committed no crime.

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