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McCain wins Ohio, colorado, nevada, north dakota, virginia. withi winsconsin, michigan and new hampshire being toss ups. new mexico is also a toss up.
Whottt I'd like to hear from you especially because I doubt any other conservative poster can truly post with this and not keep me from laughing but here we go.
I'd like people to name the states McCain will win on his way to 270. Show me the states you think he'll carry and by what margin.
I'll post my breakdown shortly, Its going to take me a bit to type it up.
McCain wins Ohio, colorado, nevada, north dakota, virginia. withi winsconsin, michigan and new hampshire being toss ups. new mexico is also a toss up.
Are you going by polling data? Or registered voters?
#1. Never go by registered voters. It means nothing in a Presidential race.
#2. 2 weeks ago the Republicans didn't care. Whole different ball game and the polling data isn't entirely reflective of that change.
Obama leads every single state you just mentioned - some fairly comfortably - with the exception of Virgina which is pretty much a statistical tie. McCain may win some, but for him to win all of those is beyond unlikely. If either candidate has a chance to sweep those its Obama.
Whottt feel free to do both, but registered voters severely favors Obama.
according to your website obama does. however, they also haven't voted democratic in the past 2-3 elections. they won't this year either. republicans will have a very large turnout this year.
Its not according to the website, its according to every poll conducted in those states. The websites don't collect any data, they simply compile the data from all the sources available.
I believe Obama is in the lead right now but only time will tell if he can maintain that lead now that Sarah is pounding the pavement.
Stop posting or I swear I'll vote for McCain.
My voice of reason will not be silenced during this crucial election for NOW is the time to let our voices be heard across the land that we will not allow another 4 years of a republican led administration that has taken us down a path to nowhere. Wake up America!!!!
I don't care who you vote for as long as you vote!!
Safe States. These are states that are not in play no matter how you slice it up.
Obama
California 55
Washington 11
Minnesota 10
Iowa 7
Illinois 21
Maine 4
Vermont 3
Massachusetts 12
Rhode Island 4
Connecticut 7
Maryland 10
Washington DC 3
Hawaii 4
McCain
Alaska 3
Idaho 4
Wyoming 3
Utah 5
Nebraska 5
Kansas 6
Oklahoma 7
Arkansas 6
Louisiana 9
Kentucky 8
Tennessee 11
Mississippi 6
Alabama 9
South Carolina 8
Obama Total EV : 151
McCain Total EV: 90
States that are basically a lock: These states are polling closer but really (regardless of Whottt's pipe dreams) places like NY and TX are not in play.
Obama:
Oregon 7
New Mexico 5
Wisconsin 10
Michigan 17
Pennsylvania 21
New York 31
New Jersey 15
Delaware 3
McCain
Arizona 10
Texas 34
Missouri 11
Georgia 15
West Virgina 5
Obama Total: 109 (260)
McCain Total: 75 (165)
So - with the states that are all reasonably safe to go the way they are polling currently, Obama is running 10 EVs shy of a win and McCain is running 105 short of a win. This puts a ton of pressure for McCain to sweep virtually every battle ground state there is left. With only so much time and money, this is extremely unlikely to happen
Battlegrounds:
Nevada 5
Colorado 9
Montana 3
North Dakota 3
South Dakota 3
Indiana 11
Ohio 20
Virgina 13
North Carolina 15
Florida 27
New Hampshire 4
These are all technically current battle grounds. That being said, I think its safe to say Florida is not in serious contention. McCain should carry that state. I also think Obama will likely carry New Hamphsire.
Out of those states, Bush won Colorado, Nevada, North Dakota and Ohio. Polling favors Obama in all of those states but lets give them to McCain.
That brings our totals to this:
Obama: 264
McCain: 229
So now we're down to these states left:
Montana, South Dakota, Indiana, Virgina and North Carolina.
The only states out of these 5 McCain can afford to lose are Montana and South Dakota. He can't afford to lose both however, because that would give Obama the 270 necessary to win the election. He also can't afford to lose either of the other 3 because that is a loss as well.
McCain must basically sweep the true battle ground states in order to win. In addition he must also win many states which are currently polling in favor of Obama. In addition because of the uncertainties of how much money McCain would have to spend he has been blowing most of his money on attack adds which have a short life span. Obama on the other hand has been building a very strong core network for his campaign. This has allowed McCain to gain ground, but it also puts Obama in a much better position to hold onto his leads with less effort in months heading up to the election. Its the equivlant of having to come back from 28 points down on the 99 Spurs.
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Votes from abroad?---you have to be kidding!!!!! This has to be a Comedy Central link.
Damn right!
Who'd ever think Americans in other countries would ever give a damn about voting in U.S. elections?
Seriously! What a horrible organization for that webmaster to support. Why on earth would anyone want everyone's vote to count? Thats so unAmerican.
"Why do you hate our troops?"
The only thing that matters is Ohio and Florida. McCain needs to win both, Obama only one of those.
You moron!!!This is not about our troops it's about anyone who has a internet connection in Eruo land. . Also --I don't recall any absentee voting now. Can the EUROS vote for our president now!!!
You don't?
Well, I can't help it if you're unfamiliar with basic election laws.
I would say I can't believe how stupid you are, but your stupidity is completely believable.
Here ya go Manny...Latest poll from Zogby themselves...you know, the same guys that predicted Kerry to win in 2004:
http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1548
And BTW, Palin is polling more favorable than any other candidate in this election right now.
Who runs that web site,Kos? read the story's on the site ---Excuesss me but look where all the articles are going on that site. As election laws , just when were the absentee ballots mailed out for the November election?
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