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Yes, but it's super-secret, and he'll keep it to himself.
So I keep remembering this from another thread:
I have looked in the CIA factbook and UNHCR site, and they say that number is closer to 3%. Certainly some of that information could be dated. Are there any other sources for the number of Arabs in Iran?
https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...k/geos/ir.html
Yes, but it's super-secret, and he'll keep it to himself.
The only country outside of Iran with those figures is Russia. Sadly, because of the Georgian conflict, Russian-American relations have deteriorated to the point where we could never hope to have such information. That is, of course, unless we can find someone.......anyone, that has the experience of being geographically close to Russia. Only a person with this type of experience could lure the Russians into a false sense of companionship and allow us to access any information that we please.
Or just ask whottt, you mean....
Bump. I looked a bit more and still haven't found anything saying Iran is 35-45% Arab.
Whottt?
I don't think he knows whottt he's talking about.
But I digress...people can come up with statistics to prove anything. 14% of all people know that.
Iran is Persian, the end. Calling it Arabic is just a little ethnic ignorance, no big deal... as long as the people leading this country aren't making these mistakes.
Here's what the CIA says from the above link:
Persian 51%, Azeri 24%, Gilaki and Mazandarani 8%, Kurd 7%, Arab 3%, Lur 2%, Baloch 2%, Turkmen 2%, other 1%.
The UN do ents say a couple million plus perhaps a couple hundred thousand Iraqi refugees.
Where does one find the 35-45% figure for Arabs today?
ROFL azerbaijani's are hte second biggest ethnic group at about a fourth of the population.
Iran's cultural makeup is not out out of the range for control by a powerful regime....nowhere near the outrageousness of a makeup of afghanistan. That country is like a seething filled cesspool of a bunch of ers that will never get along.
There are actually more azeris living in Iran than Azerbaijan itself. They don't seem to be too much of a thorn in Iran's paw, Iran is a relatively stable state in our times.
whottt?
I know you've been in this forum for hours. Help us out here.
I agree with Chump once in a while. Iranians by the way speak Farsi, an Indo-Iranian language which is totally different than Arabic.
You'd think whottt would have responded by now.
It's his claim, after all.
so true. people tend to group "middle-easterners" as arabs. not so.
iran, although bordering up to iraq, is totally different. a whole different language is spoken there, and even though i speak arabic very well, farsi is something i cannot understand. they run the country very differently than most muslim countries.
im not an expert, but being lebanese, i have some pretty good insight.
lebanon is not close enough to iran (geographically) for you to have a valid opinion here in hicks ville.
im talking about being muslim, and being an arab. and understanding those countries that follow the religion. being arab, we tend to learn about those countries, who follow our faith...........
im just trying to be a helpful insight. i dont need to live in iran to know it. i am shiite and so is the majority of iran, i know alot about the country.
oh i agree with you completely, but the newest technology suggest that a certain anthropologist has painstakingly concluded that proximity to a culture overrides any communicative validity. all you need to do is perform some participant-observation studies that doesn't include any real participants.
To DetroitGurl,
She is responding to you while actually responding to someone else. Take her last two posts as sarcasm for your part.
Just a FYI.
ahhhhhh, my deepest apologies to you......i am on board with you now.....sorry about that......its hard sometimes to read into the lines, while on a forum. please accept my apology.
and to the "anthropologist claim" .........i must laugh at that. im curious, has the above mentioned "anthropologist" ever actually been to iran? or this person is just going off of numbers and percents?
Last edited by DetroitGurl; 09-08-2008 at 01:35 PM.
thank you. i totally get that now. i appreciate the response. without knowing how people in here post, its hard to tell whats, what....just yet.
thanks again.
Eh...I didn't know this topic was intended for me. This is the first time I clicked on it. Why not put my name in the le if you want me to read it? I don't read every topic, just so you know.
My response:
I'm not really quite sure why I said that, or how my estimate was off that badly.
For now I'll just say, props, I was way off. But I will also point out it wasn't something I argued heavily...nor did I claim those numbers to be factual.
Actually I wasn't even going off of known percents...I was just going from memory and obviously I was way off on that. But I also didn't claim those numbers were factual.
An anthropologists aren't experts on the ethnic breakdown of every country in the world...nor have I ever claimed to be.
Detroit:
Even though we disagree on our faith, I do try to understand the Mideast and its history and it languages and culture. I find Urdu fascinating as well as the many other languages in India. Tamil is a great language.
and it's awesome to disagree, it means our hearts and brains are thinking.....its hard to understand ANY country or religion and its beliefs WITHOUT studying it. urdu is very intriguing, and even though its spoken in united arab emirates and the kingdom, its not a language i can understand......i also find buddhism to be very kind and warm. its a pretty deep belief system. i do not know much on the tamil language.
let me give a little insight to my religious and ethnic background.......
my father is from lebanon and is muslim, shi'ite to be exact.
my mother is from italy, and is a catholic, roman to be exact.
my mother met my father at university and they fell in love instantly. got married, and had kids. neither side of the families were real thrilled with all of this. understandably so. one is muslim, one is catholic. how will this work in the home? it has worked out very, VERY well. i went to a private, catholic school, studied the bible, and on the weekend (saturdays for a few hours) went to mosque and studied the qu'ran. we were taught to RESPECT people, NOT a "race" nor "religion", and that color was simply just that, a color. i have many jewish friends, and have gone to temple a few times. i like to learn about cultures and religions. makes a person think. makes a person WANT to feel their own faith working deep in their hearts. it is possible to enjoy others religions and cultures without wanting to fight or argue about it. respect. its so important.
i was able to make my own choices on religion. as were my siblings. i attend mass on religous holidays (and sometimes just because i feel like it) and i attened mosque during religious times, and again sometimes just because i feel like it) ashura, ramadan, etc.
i speak italian, and arabic, and of course english. i call myself muslim, because that is what i feel the most passionate about. my father didnt hold a gun to my head, this was my choice. i married a muslim as well, from lebanon.
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