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    way to edit your post
    I don't think I've ever owned the out of you like this before.
    You are losing your edge
    You still haven't. I added governor because I missed it in the other post and while in there wanted to clarify who, exactly, can earmark federal legislation. And, it's neither a city mayor or Governor.

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    I guess Mr. Dictionary needs to come in andsave the day.

    ROFL. The quote of mine you just quoted says in the article that she requested the earmarks as governor.
    I can't help it if newpaper reporters don't know how legislation is formed.

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    I still don't see how this is an effective attack against McCain/Palin. The majority of the American public don't know and don't care what an earmark is.

    After he picked Palin, one of the top searches on Google was "vetting".

    So I'm willing to bet most people don't know what an earmark is.

    Even though he is right, Obama needs to come up with something stronger if he is going to pursue this line of attack.

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    way to edit your post
    I don't think I've ever owned the out of you like this before.
    You are losing your edge



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    So? Is there any claim that she didn't keep the money?

    Maybe she and McCain disagree on earmarks...maybe she's had a change of heart on earmarks...but, either way, it doesn't matter. The McCain message is no earmarks. She's on board. What are you going to do?
    They're lying.

    Repeatedly.

    She's a big pork-ass. Alaska is a big pork-ass state.

    She's no reformer. She's a big oinker.

    McCain is lying. Big farking lier.

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    They're lying.

    Repeatedly.

    She's a big pork-ass. Alaska is a big pork-ass state.

    She's no reformer. She's a big oinker.

    McCain is lying. Big farking lier.
    So, don't vote for her...and join the 20% of Alaskans that don't like her.

    I think she and McCain are kicking ass. I think Obama thinks that too.

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    http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/20...5618/99/587721 yep, I see no coupling of the two bridges, and for a town of under 10K people, a bridge is "needed" that will cost even more than the Bridge to Nowhere?
    LOL

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    you're killing me

    lol

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    I'm going to die of laughter...

    You believe the KOS after their bullshi about Palin's baby being her daughters...

    LOL

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    the utter stupidity of you lib s

    LOL

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    So, don't vote for her...and join the 20% of Alaskans that don't like her.

    I think she and McCain are kicking ass. I think Obama thinks that too.
    The lobbyist stuff hurts McCain pretty hard, too.

    All he has to go on is 'maverick' and they're looking to rip that up.

    It's not like they have to try too hard.

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    The lobbyist stuff hurts McCain pretty hard, too.

    All he has to go on is 'maverick' and they're looking to rip that up.

    It's not like they have to try too hard.
    Well, they'd better get crackin' Time's a wasting and, so far, they've only managed to drive the McCain-Palin ticket up.

    Nice effort.

    Oh, and it's not like Mr. Community Organizer doesn't have some obstacle to overcome between now and November 4. I'm thinking McCain has an easier row to hoe.

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    Nah, you're just high on the RNC. Fair enough. It'll be a close election, but Obama has kept his powder dry. Expect him to paint the pair as a bunch of liars.

    And you on community organizers. you for defaming the people who work outside of government to make people's lives better. I thought that was your own dumb-ass party's line - that charity and goodwill are better than gov.

    It seems everything changes day to day for you.

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    Another Palin claim debunked by pics....it's like the McSame camp doesn't think there were cameras just a couple years ago...



    Obama Camp Sends Out Embarrassing Palin Pic
    By Tommy Christopher
    Sep 8th 2008 12:40PM

    The Obama campaign sent out a memo today, along with the accompanying picture, to challenge Palin's claim that she opposed Ted Stevens' "Bridge to Nowhere" earmark. (via email)
    I Supported the Bridge to Nowhere and All I Got Was This Lousy T-Shirt

    Given that the McCain campaign again claimed that Governor Palin opposed the "Bridge to Nowhere" in their new ad today despite the fact that the claim has been repeatedly debunked, we thought you'd be interested in seeing the following photograph from Governor Palin's 2006 campaign in which she's proudly posing with a t-shirt that reads "NOWHERE ALASKA 99901":

    I don't know what the big deal is. I used to watch "Trading Spaces," and they would call this "good use of negative space."

    The memo's headline is a nice touch, but in case that was all too subtle, they threw in a quote from WaPo's Howard Kurtz for good measure: "he whopper here is that Palin opposed her state's notorious Bridge to Nowhere. She endorsed the remote project while running for governor in 2006, claimed to be an opponent only after Congress killed its funding the next year and has used the $223 million provided for it for other state ventures. Far from being an opponent of earmarks, Palin hired lobbyists to try to capture more federal funding."

    I think Palin meant to say she's an opponent of "remakes." I agree, especially those "reimaginings" like Mission: Impossible. Jim Phelps would never have done that.

    Or it could be that Palin is the perfect symbol for McCain's Republican Party. In a country whose people overwhelmingly think it is going in the wrong direction, McCain and Palin want to keep going, right off of that bridge to nowhere.
    AOL

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    I'll have to see if I can find a link to that one, a client mentioned it at lunch last week when we were talking presidential politics.
    Clearly the source of most of AHF's "facts". I wonder if this is also where the classic "it's illegal for gas stations to raise the price until they've gotten a new shipment" during Katrina came from.

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    Another Palin claim debunked by pics....it's like the McSame camp doesn't think there were cameras just a couple years ago...



    AOL
    Uh, Dan, the McCain ad didn't claim she opposed the bridge to nowhere. It said she killed it. And, she did.

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    Uh, Dan, the McCain ad didn't claim she opposed the bridge to nowhere. It said she killed it. And, she did.
    Why do you insist on only saying the half truth? She killed it, after it was already killed.

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    Nah, you're just high on the RNC. Fair enough. It'll be a close election, but Obama has kept his powder dry. Expect him to paint the pair as a bunch of liars.

    And you on community organizers. you for defaming the people who work outside of government to make people's lives better. I thought that was your own dumb-ass party's line - that charity and goodwill are better than gov.
    Calm down, Obama himself said he quit community organizing because it didn't pay and it didn't work.

    It seems everything changes day to day for you.
    Do tell.

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    See, I thought all this time that the information is right there in front of our faces that she supported it first, then stopped supporting it. And I thought that liberal bloggers were jacking off to Palin being hypocritical about spending money.

    Again, must be the paint chips/ s in the face thing.

    It's funny, you have no problem railing against McCain and Palin, but where's your outrage over Obama's flip flops.

    Just in the last 3 weeks we've had

    * he was against the Surge before he was for it

    * he came out in the last day and said that now he doesn't think it will be a good idea to raise taxes on the rich if the economy continues down the path it's on (isn't this his fundamental economic plan?).

    * and let's not even touch on his "I'm a Muslim" comment, even though you sorry ass liberals love twisting the words of McCain and Palin.

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    They're lying.

    Repeatedly.

    She's a big pork-ass. Alaska is a big pork-ass state.

    She's no reformer. She's a big oinker.

    McCain is lying. Big farking lier.

    She did what governors are supposed to do, work for funding for their state.

    If you have a problem with what she did, you should be furious about Obama. But I don't see you ing about his earmark pork barrel spending, way to be a hypocrite.

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    It's funny, you have no problem railing against McCain and Palin, but where's your outrage over Obama's flip flops.

    Just in the last 3 weeks we've had

    * he was against the Surge before he was for it

    * he came out in the last day and said that now he doesn't think it will be a good idea to raise taxes on the rich if the economy continues down the path it's on (isn't this his fundamental economic plan?).

    * and let's not even touch on his "I'm a Muslim" comment, even though you sorry ass liberals love twisting the words of McCain and Palin.
    I'll admit, he's flipflopped, and that's pretty ing lame of him, but I never EVER believed his whole "change" BS in regards to him being a different kind of politician and running a different kind of campaign. I even knew he was full of about rapid withdrawal from Iraq, you'll notice now that the democrat line is "Withdraw from Iraq responsibly". I hate that. But I knew it was coming. His entire premise of running a campaign would only work against Hillary and I thought he'd be dogmeat against the republicans, because those evil s know how to run campaigns. You'll notice how I've scoffed the out of the democrats for trying to walk a fine line and looking like idiots while doing so.

    The tax thing is what is gayest of all, that pisses me off alot. I can only hope he's trying to get votes.

    Plus talking about Palin is what's the in thing right now, so here we are.

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    I even knew he was full of about rapid withdrawal from Iraq, you'll notice now that the democrat line is "Withdraw from Iraq responsibly".
    Where's the flip-flop? He still supports a withdrawal of major ground forces from Iraq....did you expect him to leave on Nov 5th?

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    Where's the flip-flop? He still supports a withdrawal of major ground forces from Iraq....did you expect him to leave on Nov 5th?
    The flip flop was him saying the Surge would never work, now it has he was really for it and knew it would work out.

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    [QUOTE=Cant_Be_Faded;2759392]The tax thing is what is gayest of all, that pisses me off alot. I can only hope he's trying to get votes.

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    Maybe cause he wised up and realised raising taxes on the group of people that pay the extreme majority of the taxes would be quite stupid?

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    The surge is the biggest crock of the Republicans have cooked up.

    They keep redefining what success means in Iraq. It still doesn't change the fact that Iraq is a giant ing mess right now and whether we leave now or 5 years from now a Civil War will likely break out. We never had a solid exit strategy and we are paying the price now. There is a reason why NO OTHER COUNTRY invaded Iraq, and it's because they knew exactly what kind of mess would happen if they did. There is a reason Bush's own ING FATHER DIDN"T INVADE IRAQ. THERE IS A REASON MOTHER ING CHENEY SAID THAT WE SHOULDN"T INVADE IRAQ YEARS AGO.

    conservatives are the dumbest Americans I've ever seen. "DRILL BABY DRILL!!! USA USA!!!". You sound like ing ingrates at your convention, ing neandrathals.

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    I have to admit that Palin knows how to to talk the republican talk and people are sucking up to it once again. The same old politics that have worked for them time and time again and looks to work for them again.
    Do you all really want another 8 years of a repubican administration? If so then don't blame me when we find ourselves deeper in debt and further into war.

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    She kept the money and allocated it elsewhere. Does anyone know where it was allocated?

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    As mayor of a small town in Alaska; it was Palin's job to do right by her cons uents; if that meant securing all of the free spending earmarks Washington had to dole out; then that was it. It was her job and responsibility - God knows her cons uents were sending tax dollar to Washington; she should get as many of those back as possible. If she had done any less, she would not have been a very good mayor. Sounds like, from her success, she was a very good mayor, indeed. If she hadn't scored those earmarks for her town, they would have gone somewhere else - wouldn't have done any good at all - "Mayor of a small town in Alaska spurns earmarks" doesn't exactly make the front page of the times, ro create any type of momentum, does it?

    However, when she gets a job in Washington; her job description changes. At that point she is elected to do what is best for the United States; reducing earmarks becomes the goal. It bodes well that she has a track record of succeeding in whatever position she might be in.

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