McCain is going to clean house come November!!!
McCain is going to clean house come November!!!
This is not trending well for Democrats.
They've been so busy trying to tie McCain to Bush, they've forgotten to run against the actual candidate.
They should learn the lessons the Republicans learned in '92 - they ran against Hillary when the candidate was Bill, then in '96 - they ran against "Liberal Bill", when he had already passed Welfare Reform and NAFTA - they didn't run against ACTUAL Bill.
What's funny is listening to the liberal pundits - they live and die by the polls; yet now that they show McCain winning they are quick to discount polling as inaccurate and not to be taken seriously. I just love watching the libs have a major meltdown!
When you look at the electoral map this race is still Obama's to lose. He really has to up between now and election day to lose this race. McCain has a lot of ground to cover.
After the debates...........all this poll will flip again. I dont see McCain or Palin holding up to the Democrats in a debate.
Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. Palin destroyed the in bent Governor in their debate; and Biden himself has said he now believes he's the underdog because debating is not his strong suit. As for Obama - he hems and haws and stutters and stammers every time he tries to talk without it being a rehearsed speech!
I say "bring it on!" Can't wait to see the debates!
Its funny how in the gallop poll...............cares about the PEOPLE is all greyed out.......![]()
Bring it...........we will see.![]()
There is not a single electoral map out that I have found that reflects polling post-Palin.
When Bush beat Gore; the popular vote was VERY close - with Gore edging - other than that it's been well over a century since the popular vote winner and electoral college winner didn't coincide. With the polls as decisive as they are, McCain would win RIGHT NOW. The maps just haven't been updated. This doesn't even take into account the Bradley effect.
I get the same energy off this post as I got when I read PHX Suns fans repeat nonstop "We have Shaq now, we have already beaten the Spurs twice."
The debates will come and go...
Don't let Biden snow you lol. He's pulling the rope-a-dope on everyone trying to lower expectations. I've watched this guy destroy his peers (Democrats and Republicans alike) on C-Span for years. I'm sure Palin can hold her own in Alaska against dipstick in bent governors but when it comes to the affairs of everyday America she's going get handled. The McCain people better coach her good because that played out stump speech isn't going to help her when she's up there all by herself with the tough questions.
I love that Obama is keeping Biden in the wings. Biden is incredibly strong on foreign affairs and his record is unmatched by anyone in the race. You're a fool if you think Palin can stand toe-to-toe with him. Biden will annihilate her.
The thing about national polls is that they don't reflect the trend in state races, especially in states that McCain needs to win....there's little doubt that all the Palin hype has roused up some of the GOP base, especially the 'tolerant' John Hagee branch, but support in GOP states that Obama has little chance of winning, like Texas, hardly translates into McCain leading in toss-up states...especially with what I call the moron crowd, or political undecideds (if your still undecided after Katrina, Iraq, and the economy your a en moron)....all the important polls still trend Obama
Not to mention Obama seems to think he's running against Palin these days![]()
That's funny, considering all the conservatives in the media who've been "cart-before-the-horse" speculating on a McCain win are preemptively whining that race will be cited as a reason for Obama losing.
From our brothers at Wonkette:
Pathetic, Failed Presidential Candidate Barack Obama To Win Presidential Election
WonketteEven though the Internet has already concluded that Barack Obama lost the election after some unknown wingnut vice president lady gave one surly speech last week, we couldn’t help but check out the electoral map anyway, just for kicks. Above is the fun Pollster map, and then you’ve got your FiveThirtyEight map, and this is a good thing to read also. Now play around with this stuff for exactly two minutes, preferably while drinking, and after those two minutes you’ll realize that Barack Obama still has this safely locked up.
The safest route is still this: Kerry states + Iowa + New Mexico + Colorado. It seems doubtful that New Hampshire, a New England state, would go for any Republican in this particular election, even if WALNUTS! has won its primary twice. And adding a crazy fundamentalist Christian to the ticket instead of friendly neighboring Governor Mittens doesn’t do much for that state’s independent crowd. (Ha ha even though Mittens is a too.) Mittens could’ve significantly helped McCain in Michigan, though, because his father used to govern it, and for some reason that would have made some people vote for the smarmy devil son 40 years later. Too late now! Michigan has no freaking business voting for MCCAIN, the guy who told them in January that their jobs were never coming back. And since Michigan and New Hampshire seemed like the only two possible states to lose from the Kerry coalition, well, enough of that.
Iowa seems safe; Barry’s always winning caucuses and giving speeches there, whereas John McCain has avoided the Iowa caucus entirely for each of his 850 presidential campaigns. New Mexico looks solid too, what with that fat Mexican governor of theirs, whatsisname, the one who always brags about his resume… well anyway, he’s always talking up Barry on the teevee. So then Barry simply has to win Colorado, where he just threw A HUGE SEXY PARTY FOR AN ENTIRE WEEK (and also where one of those Democratic Udalls is coasting to a Senate victory). Then he wins and Sarah Palin goes back to her distant Ice Palace in terrible shame.
Or he could pull off Florida — where the lovely old Jewish folks don’t cotton much to crazy ass Governor Palin — and the rest, because if you’re looking at the Pollster map, 243 + 27 = a happy number.
Or he could win Kerry states + Virginia + Iowa or Nevada or Colorado or like any other random state.
Or he could lose Colorado and instead win Nevada & Montana — where Ron Paul is on the ballot!
And in case you haven’t noticed, all of the above scenarios exclude freaking Ohio. And if you had to make a bet, in a Democratic year, well…
And he is. McCain is riding her panties all the way.
At least he picked the right panties!
Some state polls courtesy of Real Clear Politics:
Code:Wednesday, September 10 Race Poll Results Spread Montana Rasmussen McCain 53, Obama 42 McCain +11 National NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl McCain 45, Obama 46 Obama +1 North Carolina SurveyUSA McCain 58, Obama 38 McCain +20 New Jersey Fairleigh inson Obama 47, McCain 41 Obama +6
Obama +6 in Jersey....hmmm. Jersey is definitely a flippable state.
Uh...what were you guys saying about Montana earlier?
Montana is irrelevant.
Penn. and Michigan + Colorado + New Mexico = Obama victory
McCain has a lot of work left to do. All Palin did was make this a race again.
Please, it's one poll...
Rasmussen 09/08 - 09/08 700 LV 53 42 McCain +11
Rasmussen 07/29 - 07/29 500 LV 47 47 Tie
Rasmussen 07/01 - 07/01 500 LV 43 48 Obama +5
Source: Realclearpolitics
One poll does not a trend make (except for Whott)
whatever makes you guys feel better.
Last edited by whottt; 09-10-2008 at 02:14 AM.
You got a point. Obama has led in ONE poll in Montana. Other than that, and the tie, McCain has had a pretty secure lead. Obama's lead in Montana was a fluke and probably a bad sample.
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