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    Make no mistake about it and the Repubicans have grasped this cause on the rebound of the Hillary primary defeat and are going to run with it all the way to the White House. Not only has Barack's decision NOT to pick Hillary come back to bite him but it is also taking a big bite from the lead he once had over McCain.
    Women are uniting to break that glass ceiling and they now see Palin as the hammer that will shatter that glass in a way Hillary can now only dream about.
    Right now Palin is almost untouchable as she is America's new Queen and be they democrat or republican, women see her for what she is...THE woman who can take them over the top and they are willing for put aside political differences for the sake of womanhood.
    It will be a miracle, and one that I am still praying for, if Obama catches McCain in the polls.
    They are women....hear them roar!!!!

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    there's been in 20pt swing since the RNC. I saw it coming, but still have long to go.

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    Stick a fork in Obama.......he's done.

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    Stick a fork in Obama.......he's done.


    Yeah before ANY debate has taken place AND in Sept. Yeah he's done....

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    Yeah before ANY debate has taken place AND in Sept. Yeah he's done....
    And you're complaining about this after many libs have been saying the election is over for months?

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    And you're complaining about this after many libs have been saying the election is over for months?

    I'm in agreement that was pretty dumb as well. Especially with the way the Republican party is capable of running their campaigns.

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    This forum could use some female perspective on this issue. But I suspect many don't want their true political views known which I can understand.

    Come on ladies!! The time is now!!

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    I know there's been a national swing towards the Republican ticket, but people are ignoring state races again. Obama has pulled even in Florida while increasing his lead in Colorado. On the flip side, Palin's choice may put Ohio out of reach, as McCain is maintaining a solid lead there; however, Obama is still up in Pennsylvania and extremely close (according to SUSA anyway) in Virginia, without even factoring in increased African-American turnout (currently predicted at 19%, when registered AA's actually turned out at 21% for Kerry). Michigan is still in play, but I wonder for how long with their economic difficulties.

    National polls make for fun cooler talk, but they ignore the realities of the electoral race. It will be extremely close.

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    I've made my decision and not all women are flocking to Palin's side. It takes more than a pretty face to fool me.


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    Actually, I saw a poll that showed that women's support of McCain actually DROPPED after Palin gave her speech at the RNC- reflective of the views of many women here who were turned off by her sarcasm- and here is the lastest poll gender-wise that shows that Palin's support is from men- not women.


    When it comes to support for Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin, a new national poll suggests men and women don't see eye to eye.

    A CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey out Tuesday indicates that 62 percent of men questioned have a favorable opinion of the Alaska governor, nine points higher than women.

    In the poll, conducted Friday through Sunday, entirely after the end of the Republican convention, 23 percent of men have an unfavorable view of Sen. John McCain's running mate, seven points lower than women.

    The gender gap is also apparent when it comes to whether Palin is qualified to serve as president. Fifty-seven percent of male respondents said Palin was qualified, 14 points higher than women. A majority of women polled, 55 percent, said Palin is not qualified.

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    If you still can't decide between Obama and Palin what the are you basing your vote on?

    Gender and personality? Are you kidding me?

    I never understood this. THESE are the people that decide the fate of the country? That's democracy I can believe in? LOL might as well be American Idol.

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    Finally something we can agree on.

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    Actually I think this election will be decided by young people - the base of Obama supporters has been new voters, first time voters, people under the age of 25. Lots didn't have a chance to vote in the previous election because they were too young, historically they tend to not turn out for elections. This year in the primaries they turned out in mass numbers. They are undercounted and underreported in many polls, since many of them don't have landlines.

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    Actually I think this election will be decided by young people - the base of Obama supporters has been new voters, first time voters, people under the age of 25. Lots didn't have a chance to vote in the previous election because they were too young, historically they tend to not turn out for elections. This year in the primaries they turned out in mass numbers. They are undercounted and underreported in many polls, since many of them don't have landlines.
    God.

    Help.

    Us.

    The most ignorant, self-righteous, least impacted group from among us is gonna choose. (And I speak from experience, I, too was under 25 once).

    If someone else claims you as a dependent on their taxes, you ought not be able to vote, IMO.

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    God.

    Help.

    Us.

    The most ignorant, self-righteous, least impacted group from among us is gonna choose. (And I speak from experience, I, too was under 25 once).

    If someone else claims you as a dependent on their taxes, you ought not be able to vote, IMO.
    It is their future at stake and more power to them.

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    It is their future at stake and more power to them.
    And children have always been so wise in making choices which are in their own best interest. If Daddy pays the bills; daddy ought to get to vote for them; they obviously aren't grown up enough.

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    I can live with it JoeChalupa's Avatar
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    And children have always been so wise in making choices which are in their own best interest. If Daddy pays the bills; daddy ought to get to vote for them; they obviously aren't grown up enough.
    And what about the wise choices are "elder statesmen" are making? Obviously they aren't grown up either.

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    And what about the wise choices are "elder statesmen" are making? Obviously they aren't grown up either.
    At least their elders are divided on whom they support; relatively evenly. The young crowd is going so hard for Obama, it sparks much more of a movement, and a trendy thing to do, than it does of actual, deliberate, political thought.

    And again, the point is academic, but if most children lived at home, or were on daddy's dole 221 years ago, I'm betting 18 year olds wouldn't have been given the right to vote.

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    If someone else claims you as a dependent on their taxes, you ought not be able to vote, IMO.
    Why not. I mean at 18 they can go to war, but if they're 18 or over and are considered dependents on taxes they shouldn't vote.

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    Why not. I mean at 18 they can go to war, but if they're 18 or over and are considered dependents on taxes they shouldn't vote.

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    If they are going to war, they are making a living, paying taxes and being adults. If they are going to college, driving daddy's car, spending daddy's money, etc... they are NOT adults, they are still children, and have NO business voting.

    I'm not saying 18 isn't old enough to be responsible, I'm saying most aren't.

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    No, young people not projected on polls voting for Obama will decide this election.

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    At least their elders are divided on whom they support; relatively evenly. The young crowd is going so hard for Obama, it sparks much more of a movement, and a trendy thing to do, than it does of actual, deliberate, political thought.

    And again, the point is academic, but if most children lived at home, or were on daddy's dole 221 years ago, I'm betting 18 year olds wouldn't have been given the right to vote.
    And women are going hard for Palin because it is the "womanly" thing to do and has little to do with political thought so your theory is flawed. And older voters are going with McCain because they can't see themselves voting for a black man. Young voters have every right to vote as they see fit just like you do. This is America you know.

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    If they are going to war, they are making a living, paying taxes and being adults. If they are going to college, driving daddy's car, spending daddy's money, etc... they are NOT adults, they are still children, and have NO business voting.

    I'm not saying 18 isn't old enough to be responsible, I'm saying most aren't.
    I agree with this somewhat. Personally, I believe we should only allow tax payers to vote. By tax payers, I mean those who pay more than they get back at the end of the year. Not those getting bennies like "earned income credit."

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    Women are fickle.....but there's still a lot of time to learn things about Palin that the M$M corporate media doesn't talk about, like her controversial view against abortion, even in cases of rape and incest...

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