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    No debating in this thread.

    Seems some are tired of the endless stream of bile that is being thrown to and fro as the election heats up. So in deference to those more sensitive among us; this thread is dedicated to JUST ISSUES.

    State an ISSUE you agree or disagree with a candidate on.

    I disagree with Senator Obama that the tax rate should be raised for Americans with the highest salaries. Obama wants the marginal rate raised well beyond 50%. I think that is too high, is bad for the economy and, frankly, is "unAmerican".

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    I disagree with Senator McCain that there should be substantial NEW tax cuts. Our budget deficit, and national debt are destabilizing ours, and the World's economies. AFTER our government has shown some restraint, and has its budget house in order, then, and only then, should tax cuts be discussed.

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    I disagree with Senator Obama that we should start any new, large government en lement programs. As with McCain's substantial tax cuts, we can't afford those right now; get current spending in check before proposing massive new spending.

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    I disagree with both candidates on the use of the death penalty. Life in prison, without the possibility of parole provides the same benefits to the society, while costing fewer dollars, and eliminating the chance of "getting it wrong - and killing an innocent person".

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    harumph. a lot of trimming needs to be done starting with rangel.

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    I disagree with both candidates on the use of the death penalty. Life in prison, without the possibility of parole provides the same benefits to the society, while costing fewer dollars, and eliminating the chance of "getting it wrong - and killing an innocent person".
    That's the first sensible thing I've ever seen you write. I need to reconsider life as I know it.

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    I disagree with McCain that we should make the Bush tax cuts permanent without a plan to reduce the deficit.

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    I disagree with McCain's position on Roe vs Wade.

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    I don't think McCain has any grasp on the economy. The shift-taxes-downward style simply does not work. His advisors, like Phil Gramm, scare me.

    Palin certainly has no grasp on economics.

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    I disagree with McCain's support of a Cons utional amendment to define the family as a union between one man and one woman.

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    I"m against McCain's opposition to civil unions that for all intents and purposes confer the same status as traditional marriage.

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    Democrats aren't the ones that cut taxes and increased spending. 1% of the U.S. population now owns 95% of the nation's wealth, the highest discrepancy since the Great Depression. Rich people can shut the up about their taxes.

    It's true that capital is required for investment, and you can't invest money that is in the US govt's coffers. So for that reason, I do not support corporate taxes, they simply pass them along to their customers in the form of higher prices. But for some dude making $500,000 a year and is going to see his personal income taxes go up to pay for things like rebuilding crumbling infrastructure and on things like health care, I got a message for you: SHUT THE UP. Boo ing hoo about your tax bracket.

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    I disagree with McCain's position on Roe vs Wade.
    mccain has come right out and said he's against it. obamessiah's pay scale restricted him from saying anything against it. so in truth no one knows his stance on roe vs wade. someone saying "My belief is simply that women are in the best position to make that very difficult moral decision." isn't my idea of someone answering a direct question.

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    mccain has come right out and said he's against it. obamessiah's pay scale restricted him from saying anything against it. so in truth no one knows his stance on roe vs wade. someone saying "My belief is simply that women are in the best position to make that very difficult moral decision." isn't my idea of someone answering a direct question.
    WTF!? Obama is pro-choice and that is clear as rain.

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    "My belief is simply that women are in the best position to make that very difficult moral decision."

    That's very clearly pro-choice.

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    "My belief is simply that women are in the best position to make that very difficult moral decision."

    That's very clearly pro-choice.
    i see what youre saying but i'm reading that statement as saying "my belief is that women can make that decision for themselves." a parent can give their kid money for something the kid wants to buy that the parent doesn't necessarily want them to buy. hopefully that clears up why i said that we really, or at least i, don't know obamessiah's personal stance on roe vs. wade.

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    i wonder if mccain or obamessiah will get government and all the environMENTAL groups out of the way so we can get on our way on securing this country's energy be it oil, solar, wind, etc.......

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    Speaking of stances, is there a non-partisan sit that actually shows head to head where Sen. Obama and Sen. McCain stand on certain issues (Taxes/Gun Control/Budget Matters/ETC)?

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    Speaking of stances, is there a non-partisan sit that actually shows head to head where Sen. Obama and Sen. McCain stand on certain issues (Taxes/Gun Control/Budget Matters/ETC)?
    i think theyre all biased. do a search on factcheck.org
    i liked the way they picked apart both candidates acceptance speeches.

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    Speaking of stances, is there a non-partisan sit that actually shows head to head where Sen. Obama and Sen. McCain stand on certain issues (Taxes/Gun Control/Budget Matters/ETC)?
    It depends on your view of non-partisan but here is one.

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    i think theyre all biased. do a search on factcheck.org
    i liked the way they picked apart both candidates acceptance speeches.
    I concur.

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    Democrats aren't the ones that cut taxes and increased spending. 1% of the U.S. population now owns 95% of the nation's wealth, the highest discrepancy since the Great Depression.
    You're WAY off. With beliefs like that, it's no wonder you are where you are politically.

    It's not evenly distributed or anything, but 33 is a far cry from 95.

    In the United States, wealth is highly concentrated in a relatively few hands. As of 2001, the top 1% of households (the upper class) owned 33.4% of all privately held wealth, and the next 19% (the managerial, professional, and small business stratum) had 51%,

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    You're WAY off. With beliefs like that, it's no wonder you are where you are politically.

    It's not evenly distributed or anything, but 33 is a far cry from 95.
    You have figures more recently than 2001? You wanna dispute that Bush's policies have widened the gap between rich and poor and shrunk the middle class?

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    It probably isn't 95%, I pulled that somewhat out of my ass, but there's no disputing that Bush has squeezed the middle class severely and created gross disparities in income that we haven't seen in decades.

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    You have figures more recently than 2001? You wanna dispute that Bush's policies have widened the gap between rich and poor and shrunk the middle class?
    how can the gap be widened between the rich and poor without the middle class not growing? do you mean that either the rich or poor have grown or shrunk causing the middle class shrink?

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