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    Obama doesn't need to sling mud at Palin. The media outlets will take care of that all by themselves.

    The smartest move he can make right now is to ignore her completely and focus all his attacks on McCain. Painting McCain as "McSame" is a surprsingly simple and effective approach, he needs to stick with it.
    Absolutely. That's why he smartly called everyone off almost immediately when his press guys jumped the gun with the "she's too inexperienced" press release the first day. Naturally they knew who she was, but didn't know quite how it would play out. Then there was all the dumb show about her family, which really helped McCain/Palin out for a while, but meanwhile Obama was keeping the powder dry. Let her burn herself out.

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    PS: John McCain only asked Obama to co campaign and do town hall style debates about 635 times during that forum as a way of lessening the smearing..

    Obama wants no part of that...I wonder why.


    Maybe we should let him debate Palin...
    Why?

    He's not qualified to debate her either!

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    Why?

    He's not qualified to debate her either!
    Obama would tear her a new asshole...

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    Obama would tear her a new asshole...
    I don't know. You think he'd ask her tougher questions than the ones Gibson already tore her a new asshole with?

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    The Kerry camp made a huge mistake of portraying Bush as stupid and set the bar so ridiculously low for him that it kind of worked in Bush's favor when all was said and done.

    The GOP was banking on Obama to do the same to Palin.

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    If Bush can become President, she can certainly become VP....

    Oh well, at least it will make for an entertaining segment on Letterman...

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    The Kerry camp made a huge mistake of portraying Bush as stupid and set the bar so ridiculously low for him that it kind of worked in Bush's favor when all was said and done.

    The GOP was banking on Obama to do the same to Palin.
    Yeah.

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    I don't know. You think he'd ask her tougher questions than the ones Gibson already tore her a new asshole with?
    Yeah, like her husband's affiliation to an Alaskan separatists group...or her own affiliation to a church who's pastor has said some not very nice things about America...turn about is fair play after all..

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    I thought Obama did ok against Clinton even though he was holding back some. Palin fails in comparison to Clinton in that respect imo....

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    Not too impressed with what I've seen thus far from her, but I'll hold out final judgement until she's made all of her appearances and debated JB.

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    I love how y'all are having a problem with her asking him to clarify what he meant by Bush Doctrine. There's like 8-9 parts to it, how dare she ask him to clarify!

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    Dude....she didn't have a clue what the Bush doctrine is...

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    Dude....she didn't have a clue what the Bush doctrine is...
    Wouldn't you actually consider it a good thing if she wasn't familiar with a doctrine that you are staunchly opposed to?!?!?!

    FWIW, I think she knew where he was going (preemptive strike as a policy) but wanted to make sure before she answered.

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    Um no. Watch the interview again. She clearly had no idea WTF he was talking about and was trying to bait him into explaining what the Bush doctrine was. When she saw she wasn't going to get bailed out she gave some scripted BS line about Bush's "worldview". Clearly, she had never heard the term.

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    Wouldn't you actually consider it a good thing if she wasn't familiar with a doctrine that you are staunchly opposed to?!?!?!

    FWIW, I think she knew where he was going (preemptive strike as a policy) but wanted to make sure before she answered.
    It's possible, but she still dodged the question after it was painfully clear what he was asking.

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    One article said it would air tomorrow night, and one article said it was being aired at 3 different times.
    When did you guys (Manny and Johnny) watch it?
    Pt. 1 was foreign policy (aired Thursday on WNT and Nightline).
    Pt. 2 was environment/energy policy (aired Thursday on Nightline).

    I keep hearing Pt. 3 is Friday on WNT, but I thought it was all Friday on 20/20.

    They have clips at ABCNews.com.

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    Wouldn't you actually consider it a good thing if she wasn't familiar with a doctrine that you are staunchly opposed to?!?!?!

    FWIW, I think she knew where he was going (preemptive strike as a policy) but wanted to make sure before she answered.
    Then why didn't she say "preemptive strike as a policy" when he asked her "what do you interpret it to mean?"?

    Her answer was "His world view?".

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    It's possible, but she still dodged the question after it was painfully clear what he was asking.
    That's a bull question anyway. Every situation is different and setting out a blanket policy of preemptive strike is rediculous.

    Why would Sarah Palin or anyone else on the tickets agree to something like that at this point?

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    Then why didn't she say "preemptive strike as a policy" when he asked her "what do you interpret it to mean?"?

    Her answer was "His world view?".
    Not sure....it's just a gut feel based on her reaction and the exchange as a whole.

    You obviously disagree, so I guess we'll leave it there.

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    That's a bull question anyway. Every situation is different and setting out a blanket policy of preemptive strike is rediculous.

    Why would Sarah Palin or anyone else on the tickets agree to something like that at this point?

    Well, she could have easily said something to that effect and it would have gone over much better.

    Roll out the..."Each situation is different but we need to keep every option on the table" and move on.

    She handled it poorly.

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    It's possible, but she still dodged the question after it was painfully clear what he was asking.


    Yeah but that could just as easily be because they are trying to stave off criticism that they are the 3rd term of the Bush admin, and they are trying to do it without throwing Bush under the bus.


    Everyone knows what the Bush doctrine is at the basic level, it's pre-emptive war...it's not like it's a complex thing.

    Fighting off accusations that you aren't 3rd term of the Bush Admin without throwing Bush under the bus...now that's complex.

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    Yeah but that could just as easily be because they are trying to stave off criticism that they are the 3rd term of the Bush admin, and they are trying to do it without throwing Bush under the bus.


    Everyone knows what the Bush doctrine is at the basic level, it's pre-emptive war...it's not like it's a complex thing.

    Fighting off accusations that you aren't 3rd term of the Bush Admin without throwing Bush under the bus...now that's complex.
    I just thought she fumbled the ball. She has time and plenty of opportunities to make up for it.

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    Now that Palin has thrown God under the bus. expect her to do the same on her controversial view on global warming tomorrow..

    "We gotta do something about it". Clear leadership that will lead is out of the ditch and directly into the bottomless crevice.


    Palin, however, said: "I believe that man's activities certainly can be contributing to the issue of global warming, climate change. ... Regardless though of the reason for climate change, whether it's entirely, wholly caused by man's activities or is part of the cyclical nature of our planet - the warming and the cooling trends - regardless of that, John McCain and I agree that we gotta do something about it."

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    Well, she could have easily said something to that effect and it would have gone over much better.

    Roll out the..."Each situation is different but we need to keep every option on the table" and move on.

    She handled it poorly.
    I didn't say she handled it great.

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    Pt. 1 was foreign policy (aired Thursday on WNT and Nightline).
    Pt. 2 was environment/energy policy (aired Thursday on Nightline).

    I keep hearing Pt. 3 is Friday on WNT, but I thought it was all Friday on 20/20.

    They have clips at ABCNews.com.
    Thank you, JB

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