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    Did you think she was going to whip out a huge penis or something?
    Now THAT would get the sirens going on Drudge:

    PALIN IS HUNG!!!

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    What the were your expectations for this interview? Did you think she was going to whip out a huge penis or something?

    She definitely has a vagina, so this interview was a categorical success.....
    If you had taken the time to follow in this thread you would have known my expectations were based on what I had read in here first. All the dems saying how horrible she was. You're right in laughing that I should have known better.

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    did anyone here honestly know what the Bush doctrine was? yeah she did talk out of her ass on that one, but recovered pretty good. she kept the "uh's" to a minimum. a teleprompter must've been behind chuck.
    I would think that most of the regular posters on this forum know what the Bush Doctrine is. However, we post on a political forum, so we're not exactly a representative demographic for the rest of the US.

    But even if only a few of us knew what the Bush Doctrine is, shouldn't she know it? If you've followed national politics for the last six years, you probably know what the Bush Doctrine is. And if she hasn't been following national politics that closely("I haven't really focused much on the war in Iraq"), does she even know if she is really qualified?

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    I would think that most of the regular posters on this forum know what the Bush Doctrine is. However, we post on a political forum, so we're not exactly a representative demographic for the rest of the US.
    well excuse me. i'm not holding him on a pedestal, but david gergen said something to the effect that it's not formally named the bush doctrine or whatnot. he said it was a pretty vague question. i figured he would know a little better than people that post here in the political forum. before i go to my next point........... (geez get over yourself before you continue)

    But even if only a few of us knew what the Bush Doctrine is, shouldn't she know it? If you've followed national politics for the last six years, you probably know what the Bush Doctrine is. And if she hasn't been following national politics that closely("I haven't really focused much on the war in Iraq"), does she even know if she is really qualified?
    if she did know what the bush doctrine was would you along with the other obamessidencons attacked her for knowing "more of the same"? i would think that her not knowing a bush policy would work in her favor. no?


    oh and congrats. you made my sig.

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    I would think that most of the regular posters on this forum know what the Bush Doctrine is. However, we post on a political forum, so we're not exactly a representative demographic for the rest of the US.

    But even if only a few of us knew what the Bush Doctrine is, shouldn't she know it? If you've followed national politics for the last six years, you probably know what the Bush Doctrine is. And if she hasn't been following national politics that closely("I haven't really focused much on the war in Iraq"), does she even know if she is really qualified?
    She's a governor of a State, and has NOT been in national politics. She obviously has confidence that she can get up to speed on what she needs to know. This is probably the best look we'll ever get at a politician TRULY under fire; she was thrust into this position with little warning; and has had to learn, study "cram" as this board as suggested for the past two weeks.

    Others ALWAYS know for much longer what they are going to be doing, and asked about. , Obama's been running for President for damn near TWO years; you'd have thought he would have had an answer on abortion ready, wouldn't you????

    Sure makes me question his abilities!! After all this time, and he can't answer a VERY predictable question better than that? What kind of a moron does HE have to be?

    The interview and scrutiny Palin is currently receiving is unprecedented for a VP candidate. Quayle didn't go through this, neither did Edwards (who was a 1st term senator his own self when nominated!) Nobody questioned HIS experience or capability, pointing at them, and accusing them of Hubris (and damn straight - I FULLY expect my president and VEEP to have it IN DROVES!!!)

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    well excuse me. i'm not holding him on a pedestal, but david gergen said something to the effect that it's not formally named the bush doctrine or whatnot. he said it was a pretty vague question. i figured he would know a little better than people that post here in the political forum. before i go to my next point........... (geez get over yourself before you continue)
    Nice deflection. You asked if people here knew what the Bush Doctrine was. I explained that since this is a political forum, most of the regular posters here would probably know what it was. Why is that a surprising assertion? Also, how is that boasting or bragging? I would assume that the regular posters on this thread know what the Bush Doctrine is. Maybe I'm mistaken.

    Also, my comment no the representative demographic was merely making the point that the regular posters in here are likely more engaged and informed regarding politics than the average citizen. Again, why wouldn't that make sense to you?

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    She's a governor of a State, and has NOT been in national politics. She obviously has confidence that she can get up to speed on what she needs to know. This is probably the best look we'll ever get at a politician TRULY under fire; she was thrust into this position with little warning; and has had to learn, study "cram" as this board as suggested for the past two weeks.


    Exactly. So why try to spin it as if it was a masterful performance and everything came off without a hitch?

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    did anyone here honestly know what the Bush doctrine was?
    Yes. Does that make me qualified to be President? Pathetic.

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    you guys crack me up. Findog says the interview is buried and Manny says it stunk, so I was truly expecting something bad.

    Come to find out the interview is top center right below the hurricane picture, so no it's not buried. Plus, she did why better than expected.

    The best thing about this interview is she totally made herself out to be #2 on the ticket.

    She came across as all woman.
    I think the only audience that matters is independents, and she didn't do well there. Conservatives love her, Liberals don't. She came across as unprepared and out of her league on foreign issues. Total deer in the headlights look when it came to the Bush Doctrine. She couldn't answer a simple "yes" or "no" to a yes or no question about going into Pakistan without their permission. She put Israel in charge of our Iran policy. All the more embarrassing and humiliating since her handlers chose Charlie Gibson because they figured he'd only lob her softballs.

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    And trust me, if the interview were a success, it would be above the masthead. Telling that they want to bury it.

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    Nice deflection. You asked if people here knew what the Bush Doctrine was. I explained that since this is a political forum, most of the regular posters here would probably know what it was. Why is that a surprising assertion? Also, how is that boasting or bragging? I would assume that the regular posters on this thread know what the Bush Doctrine is. Maybe I'm mistaken.

    Also, my comment no the representative demographic was merely making the point that the regular posters in here are likely more engaged and informed regarding politics than the average citizen. Again, why wouldn't that make sense to you?
    Mea Culpa - and I dare others to do the same:

    I KNEW what the Bush Doctrine was, but asked about it during an interview, I would have taken pause, and had to think about it. It is not brought up much.

    In fact, I've spent some time perusing the forum, and haven't found it mentioned. Unfortunately, I can't make the search function here search for the phrase, only each word. Again, haven't found it here, at all.

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    Exactly. So why try to spin it as if it was a masterful performance and everything came off without a hitch?

    I didn't. However, it was a very good performance. It showed grit, intelligence and toughness.

    Think about how much access was given, and how much ammunition YOU actually have this morning.....she didn't hurt herself; except with people who had already made up their minds.

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    Mea Culpa - and I dare others to do the same:

    I KNEW what the Bush Doctrine was, but asked about it during an interview, I would have taken pause, and had to think about it. It is not brought up much.

    In fact, I've spent some time perusing the forum, and haven't found it mentioned. Unfortunately, I can't make the search function here search for the phrase, only each word. Again, haven't found it here, at all.
    The only reference I saw was in this thread by Yonivore -
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2011
    and it was in the le of the article he was citing.

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    we've all talked about preemptive strikes and wars, but I never knew it was formally labeled the Bush Doctrine.

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    And trust me, if the interview were a success, it would be above the masthead. Telling that they want to bury it.
    we trust you.

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    Mea Culpa - and I dare others to do the same:

    I KNEW what the Bush Doctrine was, but asked about it during an interview, I would have taken pause, and had to think about it. It is not brought up much.

    In fact, I've spent some time perusing the forum, and haven't found it mentioned. Unfortunately, I can't make the search function here search for the phrase, only each word. Again, haven't found it here, at all.
    Look, I knew what the Bush Doctrine was and it's mostly because (and this is the point I was making to Viva) I have an interest in politics; frequently surf political sites; watch Meet the Press, This Week, etc., and admittedly, listen to conservative talk radio (mostly Ingraham, Rush, and Joe Pags - I can't listen to Hannity). Again, I would assume the same thing applies to many people that post here.

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    Plus...no one cares if she's foreign policy master right now, or knows exactly how to be President..
    not what you said before. you said she had super-secret intimate experience. don't sweat it. i predict you'll have many palin topics to flip on.
    .no one has been President before becoming President so any one with a molecule of common sense understands that.
    genius
    It is over...
    it could be, now.

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    Wait, wait ,wait. So Republicans, who for the last 8 years, have been preaching National Defense as the single most important factor in an election are now forgiving Palin for not being "up to speed" on National Defense issues? If you really want to protect this nation and not just win elections, don't put people who need to be brought up to speed in charge. You put the people that are qualified on Day 1 to do the job. ing morons.

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    Wait, wait ,wait. So Republicans, who for the last 8 years, have been preaching National Defense as the single most important factor in an election are now forgiving Palin for not being "up to speed" on National Defense issues? If you really want to protect this nation and not just win elections, don't put people who need to be brought up to speed in charge. You put the people that are qualified on Day 1 to do the job. ing morons.
    I think all I've noted her not being up to speed on is an infrequently used label the media has put on a Bush policy.

    Why can't Biden tell the difference between a brigade and a battallion?

    Mr. FP Wonk himself?

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    There is no way in Palin can stand up to Biden on foreign policy and that is a indisputable fact.

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    Why can't Biden tell the difference between a brigade and a battallion?
    he knows when they've been used foolishly.

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    There is no way in Palin can stand up to Biden on foreign policy and that is a indisputable fact.

    What do you mean "stand up"?

    They don't get to question each other; there is not a written exam. When they debate, their will be a moderator asking question they are both prepped for. The way the public PERCEIVES their performance determines who stands, and who loses. Biden has got this unbelievable, mythical FP reputation; almost impossible to live up to expectations - Palin, on the other hand, has been conveniently labeled a "lightweight", "idiot", "crazy ", "wack-job", etc.....

    Who has the tougher assignment? Who is ACTUALLY more prone to saying very, very stupid things on an almost DAILY basis? Biden REALLY did screw up brigades and battallions, he really did ask a cripple to stand up, and he really did say that it was unfortunate his wife has a Ph.D, that he, himself, was not the most qualified person from his current job, he spoke of needing an Indian accent to shop an a convenience store, and yes, YOUR Vice Presidential nominee, actually did say that Obama would go places because he was, "A clean, articulate, black man!!!!!!!"

    Had a Republican said either of those last two lines, he would have been tarred and feathered. Since Biden wasn't, he is still around, and has been promoted to the point that he will be in position to completely torpedo his own ticket in less than a month.

    I ask again, with delivery vs. expectation at a debate being the deciding factor, WHO should be more worried?

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    Wait, wait ,wait. So Republicans, who for the last 8 years, have been preaching National Defense as the single most important factor in an election are now forgiving Palin for not being "up to speed" on National Defense issues? If you really want to protect this nation and not just win elections, don't put people who need to be brought up to speed in charge. You put the people that are qualified on Day 1 to do the job. ing morons.
    So for obama to make an elementary mistake as let the UN handle the russia problem must tell you he's not qualified. If want people to be honest with you then first start telling the truth

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    We are not attacking Russia 2cents. I can't tell you how monumentally re ed and idiotic that would be. If you really believe attacking Russia is in the cards for even someone as dumb as Bush, you are an idiot. Quite frankly, you are an idiot.

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    So for obama to make an elementary mistake as let the UN handle the russia problem must tell you he's not qualified. If want people to be honest with you then first start telling the truth
    Posted from another thread

    Obama pushes for U.N. resolution on Russia
    Published: Aug. 11, 2008 at 7:08 PM
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    HONOLULU, Aug. 11 (UPI) -- The international community must push Russia to pull its military forces out of Georgia, Democratic U.S. presidential hopeful Barack Obama said Monday.
    The United States, Europe and other concerned countries "must stand united," the U.S. senator from Illinois told reporters while vacationing in Hawaii.

    "It is a clear violation of (Georgia's) sovereignty and recognized borders," Obama said.

    He said he would continue to push for a United Nation resolution regarding a cease-fire in Georgia.
    McCain calls for U.N. resolution against Russia
    By Klaus Marre
    Posted: 08/11/08 11:02 AM [ET]
    Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) on Monday called on the United Nations Security Council to condemn Russia’s aggression against Georgia.

    “We should move ahead with the resolution despite Russian veto threats, and submit Russia to the court of world public opinion,” McCain said in Erie, Pa.

    Apart from a Security Council resolution calling for a cease-fire and condemning Russia’s aggression, NATO should begin “discussions on both the deployment of an international peacekeeping force to South Ossetia and the implications for NATO's future relationship with Russia, a Partnership for Peace nation,” the Arizona senator stated.

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