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    Palin is the ticket.

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    Democrats need to stop talking about her and focus on McCain. If you bring her up at all, it's to contrast her with Joe Biden, not Obama. You can't turn this election into some sort of referendum on her, it should be a referendum on the last 8 years.

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    it should be a referendum on the last 8 years.
    You were almost there!

    McCain is the enemy; not Palin, and not Bush. If the entire campaign is to make McCain=Bush; then ALL McCain has to do is run away from Bush - by doing things like picking Palin, ragging on the size of Bush's cabinet, etc....

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    You were almost there!

    McCain is the enemy; not Palin, and not Bush. If the entire campaign is to make McCain=Bush; then ALL McCain has to do is run away from Bush - by doing things like picking Palin, ragging on the size of Bush's cabinet, etc....
    McCain has a long record of sucking up to Bush for the last 8 years. It's an easier case to make than you think.

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    McCain has a long record of sucking up to Bush for the last 8 years. It's an easier case to make than you think.
    When did you start following politics?

    Bush and McCain HATED each other for the first 6 years of this administration. In the first year of Bush's tenure, McCain voted with him on less than 65% of issues (in HIS first year, Obama voted with Bush on 60).

    McCain was courted by Democrats to join Kerry's ticket, for Christ's sake. There is NO Republican more dislike Bush, or who has a identifiable record of diverging from the administration more!

    , Bush didn't have a public signing ceremony of McCain/Feingold simply he didn't want to give McCain any public props.

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    When did you start following politics?

    Bush and McCain HATED each other for the first 6 years of this administration. In the first year of Bush's tenure, McCain voted with him on less than 65% of issues (in HIS first year, Obama voted with Bush on 60).

    McCain was courted by Democrats to join Kerry's ticket, for Christ's sake. There is NO Republican more dislike Bush, or who has a identifiable record of diverging from the administration more!

    , Bush didn't have a public signing ceremony of McCain/Feingold simply he didn't want to give McCain any public props.
    You combine this with his selection of the Wackjob as his VP, and you have McSame's psychology perfectly clear: He cares more about trying to propel himself to power than he does about what is really in the best interest of this country. And that kind of thinking is gonna backfire, because I truly believe he's going down.

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    He cares more about trying to propel himself to power than he does about what is really in the best interest of this country.


    Betting you are currently either a "Journalism", "Woman's Studies" or "Education" major?

    That's nearly the definition of politician.

    You remember Bill Clinton, right?

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    When did you start following politics?

    Bush and McCain HATED each other for the first 6 years of this administration. In the first year of Bush's tenure, McCain voted with him on less than 65% of issues (in HIS first year, Obama voted with Bush on 60).

    McCain was courted by Democrats to join Kerry's ticket, for Christ's sake. There is NO Republican more dislike Bush, or who has a identifiable record of diverging from the administration more!

    , Bush didn't have a public signing ceremony of McCain/Feingold simply he didn't want to give McCain any public props.
    And I think that's why people are so critical of McCain for "the hug" and other capitulations to the Bush Administration. I remember McCain aides saying they could never forgive Bush for the smear campaign in 2000. Now, he's doing what he has to do politically (both of them are) and I understand that, but it does take some of the shine off of a previously outspoken critic of the Bush Administration.

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    And I think that's why people are so critical of McCain for "the hug" and other capitulations to the Bush Administration. I remember McCain aides saying they could never forgive Bush for the smear campaign in 2000. Now, he's doing what he has to do politically (both of them are) and I understand that, but it does take some of the shine off of a previously outspoken critic of the Bush Administration.
    Absolutely.

    That's why the system of primaries sucks....have to run to the base to get elected; THEN win the general.

    It's why, frankly, the Dems ended up with the "too-liberal" candidate this time, IMO. Hillary would have won easily (although Obama may very well win)

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    Yeah, he got a convention bounce, and his lead coming out of the convention was something like 15 points, an absurd outlier. I don't think there was ever any doubt that Bush Sr. was going to win that election. Gore had a 14-point lead coming out of LA. Which is why I'd be mightily concerned if the best McCain can do is make the race statistically dead even. It goes to show you how meaningless national polls are right now. If McCain expands his lead from dead even and +1 to up 7 or 8 points in the polls 3 weeks from now, then it's time for Obama to panic.



    Oh yeah, you're a blind partisan if you see that as anything other than a cynical sop to the right. It doesn't really matter though what you or I think. The only audience that matters is undecideds, and the kind of person who still hasn't made up his mind isn't going to do it now on the basis of a big VP splash. There's still no evidence that she's helping him do anything other than shore up his base.


    I can't understand why Whott refuses to acknowledge this. If the roles were reversed they would be using the exact same example.

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    I can't understand why Whott refuses to acknowledge this. If the roles were reversed they would be using the exact same example.
    Yeah, believe me, I would prefer Obama to be up in the polls instead of McCain slightly ahead in national polls, but it's not time for Democrats to start readying the concession speeches, or for McCain to crack open some champagne.

    I just think the dynamics of this race favor Obama.

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    Nothing brings the GOTV like a candidate that is slightly behind in the polls. Maybe a blessing in disguise for Obama.

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    I can't understand why Whott refuses to acknowledge this. If the roles were reversed they would be using the exact same example.
    You can't have a logical discussion with whottt. Have you ever seen his takes on the Spurs forum? Robinson > Jordan, Shane Heal should get more playing time, etc.

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    Nothing brings the GOTV like a candidate that is slightly behind in the polls. Maybe a blessing in disguise for Obama.
    I gave him money and signed up for volunteering in a neighboring state.

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    Yeah, believe me, I would prefer Obama to be up in the polls instead of McCain slightly ahead in national polls, but it's not time for Democrats to start readying the concession speeches, or for McCain to crack open some champagne.

    I just think the dynamics of this race favor Obama.


    I was expecting McCain to pull even or take a slight lead like this after their convention. Thats why I was upset that their convention was last because that mean't they were going to get the later push. But I can live with 1-2 points.
    But I'd be lying if I told you I thought Palin would be getting all this exposure. Now that has caught me by surprise.
    I'm with you in the thinking if after the VP debate, and the other 2 debates McCain continues to compile the lead then I will start to worry. Until then, while I will admit I hate to see McCain pull ahead, I haven't pushed the panic button yet.

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    People don't seem to get it: Polls are meaningless. You can make them say anything you want, depending on who you ask, when you ask, and how you ask.

    As for who's currently "winning" - well, Obama is currently up 281-257 in the electoral college count. That could change, but that's based on current expectations about how states are likely to go.

    http://www.demconwatchblog.com/

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    I too have contributed money to Obama's campaign, the 1st time I've ever done so. I was one of those smug people who thought Kerry would obliterate Bush. I'm not making that mistake again, I will do whatever I can to help Obama win this election. America's future is too important to me and the thought of 4 more years of Bush....errr McSame is frightening.

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    I too have contributed money to Obama's campaign, the 1st time I've ever done so. I was one of those smug people who thought Kerry would obliterate Bush. I'm not making that mistake again, I will do whatever I can to help Obama win this election. America's future is too important to me and the thought of 4 more years of Bush....errr McSame is frightening.
    I got an email from the Obama campaign about needing volunteers for Colorado and New Mexico. I live in Texas. Don't you live in California? I bet there are opportunities to volunteer in Nevada.

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    I got an email from the Obama campaign about needing volunteers for Colorado and New Mexico. I live in Texas. Don't you live in California? I bet there are opportunities to volunteer in Nevada.
    I live in PA. Voluteering for McCain; contributing; slashing tires in poor neighborhoods; the works.

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    ^I hope your joking.

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    ^I hope your joking.

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    I live in PA. Voluteering for McCain; contributing; slashing tires in poor neighborhoods; the works.
    Can you slash a tire that has spinners on it?

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    Can you slash a tire that has spinners on it?
    Yes, my preacher at church Sunday told us all to specifically target such cars...right before we prayed to God to kill all Muslims and abortionists, thanked Him for making us all more righteous than all other people on Earth, and for giving us the wonderful blessing of Sarah Palin (Preacher thinks she might have been conceived miraculously).

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    I live in PA. Voluteering for McCain; contributing; slashing tires in poor neighborhoods; the works.
    Yes, my preacher at church Sunday told us all to specifically target such cars...right before we prayed to God to kill all Muslims and abortionists, thanked Him for making us all more righteous than all other people on Earth, and for giving us the wonderful blessing of Sarah Palin (Preacher thinks she might have been conceived miraculously).



    Niiiiiiice...

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