View Poll Results: Shoule the next president know how to send an email?

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    Goddamn man. That was harsh.
    I believe the proper expression is "hoisted by his own pe ".

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    I know my grandma would be highly offended to be told she could be out of touch with society because she can barely use a computer (she can do word processing and look at pictures in the my pictures folder and that's about it).
    Is your grandmother running for president?

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    Seriously, as I said before this means very little in terms of magnitude.

    It does indicate the possibility of a mind unable to learn or assimilate new information, and therefore some possible indicator of mental agility/stamina.

    That is stretching it, but it is a reasonable conclusion to make of a man of McCain's age.

    Taken by itself it is meaningless. But if it were to be shown as part of a pattern of things that demonstrate mental inflexibility, and "senior moments"...

    That would be a bit more important to consideration of this job candidate for such a stressful and taxing position.

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    Is your grandmother running for president?
    Nope. She is a retired lady who works democrat polling places for elections.

    Apparently, you missed the topic of the paragraph, since your question has absolutely no relevance to what I wrote involving her.

    She was an example of someone who would be angered at computer illiteracy being associated with being in touch with society, and as a member of one of the largest voting blocs that typically favors the democrats. That was an explanation of why that ad is a bit faulty in terms of accomplishing its purpose, not on how the claim applies to a presidential candidate.

    That would be the previous paragraph. You are aware each paragraph is supposed to have its own topic, and while they should be related, they are separate, right?

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    I'm not convinced one of my bosses knows how to email since it seems like his admin sends them all but otherwise he's very good at his job.

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    Nope. She is a retired lady who works democrat polling places for elections.

    Apparently, you missed the topic of the paragraph, since your question has absolutely no relevance to what I wrote involving her.

    She was an example of someone who would be angered at computer illiteracy being associated with being in touch with society, and as a member of one of the largest voting blocs that typically favors the democrats. That was an explanation of why that ad is a bit faulty in terms of accomplishing its purpose, not on how the claim applies to a presidential candidate.

    That would be the previous paragraph. You are aware each paragraph is supposed to have its own topic, and while they should be related, they are separate, right?
    Indeed. Just a question that immediately popped into my mind. Take it for what it is worth.

    I am sure she is a wonderful person, and fully acknowledge that computer literacy is not a requirement for being such.

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    This is what it's come to for Camp Obama? Can't talk economy, international affairs, social security, etc. because he doesn't have a plan, so they have to resort to stupid attacks about whether or not McCain checks his email?

    Change? Obama's just another political from the left.

    He's really reaching with this one.
    You mean like the Palin/McCain campaign wanting to talk about lipstick on a pig instead of the real issues?

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    I'm not convinced one of my bosses knows how to email since it seems like his admin sends them all but otherwise he's very good at his job.
    I know a lot of bosses have their admins screen their email to avoid information overload.

    If you have to be responsible for 40-70 people, and only half of them email you on a given day, that is a LOT of stuff to deal with.

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    You are aware this discussion exists because of a new Obama attack add making a big deal out of McCain not being very computer proficient, right?

    If not, you shouldn't even be in this discussion. Instead, you should be reading any of the various news sites discussing it.
    The email thing was part of the add.

    Heh, the funky glasses that John wore in that hearing though... ouch.

    Surprised there wasn't a big ol' butterfly collar on his suit.

    (not that RG didn't have some stoooopid haircuts in the 80's with parachute pants and the whole cheesy nine yards. Ouch.)

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    You ing , Clinton's VP invented emails remember? Of course the white house was using it at the time.
    You know, I think johnsmith gets it. Seriously.

    I am usually serious in here, but lately reading all the partisan bull around here has enlightened me to the overall humor this forum provides.

    Because honestly, everyone here (except boutons, Dan and Yoni) knows we arent changing any hearts or minds with our political discourse, therefore this is more a battle of wits than facts.

    Which in turn is sarcastic by nature.

    John doesnt even feign interest in the topic at times, he just posts the most obvious criticism one can think of.

    I usually tend to laugh while reading, when taken in the proper context.

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    You know, I think johnsmith gets it. Seriously.

    I am usually serious in here, but lately reading all the partisan bull around here has enlightened me to the overall humor this forum provides.

    Because honestly, everyone here (except boutons, Dan and Yoni) knows we arent changing any hearts or minds with our political discourse, therefore this is more a battle of wits than facts.

    Which in turn is sarcastic by nature.

    John doesnt even feign interest in the topic at times, he just posts the most obvious criticism one can think of.

    I usually tend to laugh while reading, when taken in the proper context.
    shut up .

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    lol...nice try though.

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    I usually tend to laugh while reading, when taken in the proper context.
    Politics is inherently funny. Where else can people bash each other and about the other persons positions, when they are exactly the same as theirs, and be considered sane? How many other high power positions are more about likeability than ability or what group you belong to instead of what you stand for?

    It's all rather stupid. But its fun. And cathartic to yell at people for no real reason.

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    Can we do away with these stupid threads? They are wasting time and space. Still, I'll respond to one thing since I did work on government communications as an electronics technician in the 80's and 90's.

    your point. What was it anyway- that Bill Clinton didn't send many e-mails during his term when the internet and e-mail were in their very infancy?
    The internet structure was actually doing well in the government even when Reagan was president. By the numbers I saw about Clinton here, It wouldn't surprise me if president Reagan did more E-mails than president Clinton. Just because internet protacols were not being used in the public sector until the late 80's/early 90's. That does not mean it didn't exist. My unit used to use e-mail all the time in the late 80's. If we had it, you can believe the office of the president had it!

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    I was about to select "It doesn't matter", but then I recalled all the conservative lectures about "executive experience", and I have great difficulty imagining any executive in this country, occupying any level of government or business, that doesn't know how to use email in the 21st century.

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    When you start trying to call anyone out for attacks over issues, it is logical to conclude, based on your own words, that you are a bag.
    I give this post, and especially this line, a 10.

    Well done.

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    If you ever worked in business a E-mail is a forever record of what you said. How many people are now in trouble because of E-mails? Do you think John just says he doesn't e-mail for a reason. Ask the ENRON executives about how E-Mails will come back to haunt you.

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    If you ever worked in business a E-mail is a forever record of what you said. How many people are now in trouble because of E-mails? Do you think John just says he doesn't e-mail for a reason. Ask the ENRON executives about how E-Mails will come back to haunt you.
    McCain doesn't use email so he can hide his tracks from the law?

    That's a pretty bizarre defense. I don't think you're doing your guy any favors with that one.

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    McCain doesn't use email so he can hide his tracks from the law?

    That's a pretty bizarre defense. I don't think you're doing your guy any favors with that one.


    The archives of the Bill Clinton presidential library will contain 39,999,998 e-mails by the former president’s staff and two by the man himself. “The only two he sent,” Skip Rutherford, president of the Clinton Presidential Foundation, which is raising money for the library, said on Monday.


    http://gadgetopia.com/post/1988

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    The archives of the Bill Clinton presidential library will contain 39,999,998 e-mails by the former president’s staff and two by the man himself. “The only two he sent,” Skip Rutherford, president of the Clinton Presidential Foundation, which is raising money for the library, said on Monday.


    http://gadgetopia.com/post/1988
    Ah, the "Bill Clinton did it" defense. A bit tired, and it suffers from your side's ill regard for Clinton's character and methods, but it's much better than your "Enron executives" attempt earlier.

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    Ah, the "Bill Clinton did it" defense. A bit tired, and it suffers from your side's ill regard for Clinton's character and methods, but it's much better than your "Enron executives" attempt earlier.
    The way hackers can get into anything today --is anything safe --including E-Mails?

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    If Bill Clinton sent two e-mails, that would imply he knew how to use e-mail? Right? This thread isn't led, "should the next president use e-mail," it's, "should the next president know how to use e-mail" Because that's really what we're talking about here; the knowing. I don't really care whether the next president uses e-mail or not, but I would like to think that by 2008 they'd be competent enough to use e-mail, if so inclined. Which McCain isn't. (Not that I don't think there are about a million more pertinent issues when it comes to McCain's multiple flaws)

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    The last Spurstalk poll results has 54% doesn't matter. I agree. You just don't send sensitive data in E-Mails anymore and everyone knows that if it's posted on the internet it must be true.

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    It is true that John McCain does not send his own e-mails. However, it is not because he doesn't know how. It is because composing e-mails requires typing, which is among the things that are very painful and/or impossible for him to do following his torture at the hands of the Viet Cong. He also cannot tie his shoes or lift his right arm above his shoulder.

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    It is true that John McCain does not send his own e-mails. However, it is not because he doesn't know how. It is because composing e-mails requires typing, which is among the things that are very painful and/or impossible for him to do following his torture at the hands of the Viet Cong. He also cannot tie his shoes or lift his right arm above his shoulder.
    that will make a nice commercial.

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