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    I know. It's ridiculous.

    Are people on the right going to be incensed?

    What will Hannity say?

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    Yeah I want to know why those troops hate America too.

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    Did y'all know the U.S. code specifically calls for all citizens to put their hand over their heart, or salute if in uniform, while the pledge of allegiance is recited, or the Star Spangled Banner is played?

    I question what is going on in this picture, since those in uniform are simply standing at attention.

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    Yeah I want to know why those troops hate America too.
    I thought troops stand at attention. That's what David Robinson did during the national anthem at every Spurs' game.

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    I thought troops stand at attention. That's what David Robinson did during the national anthem at every Spurs' game.
    Maybe you're right on the National Anthem; I'm pretty sure the Pledge of Allegiance requires a salute.

    David, since he was not in uniform, should have had his hand over his heart (unless the White, Silver and Black count)

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    Maybe you're right on the National Anthem; I'm pretty sure the Pledge of Allegiance requires a salute.

    David, since he was not in uniform, should have had his hand over his heart (unless the White, Silver and Black count)

    In or out of uniform military members and veterans alike may stand at attention durring the anthem, and the pledge. At least that was the directive when I was active.

    btw where was Palin's flag pin?

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    US Code, le 36>Sub le I>Part A> Chapter 3> Section 301

    National anthem
    How Current is This? (a) Designation.— The composition consisting of the words and music known as the Star-Spangled Banner is the national anthem.
    (b) Conduct During Playing.— During a rendition of the national anthem—
    (1) when the flag is displayed—
    (A) all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart;
    (B) men not in uniform should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold the headdress at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and
    (C) individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until the last note; and
    (2) when the flag is not displayed, all present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed.

    le 4 > Chapter 1 > Section 4 describes basically the exact same behaviour for the Pledge.

    Given that the Military is not saluting, neither the Pledge nor national anthem should be going on, but likely was either about to start or just ending since some people are in position.

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    US Code, le 36>Sub le I>Part A> Chapter 3> Section 301

    National anthem
    How Current is This? (a) Designation.— The composition consisting of the words and music known as the Star-Spangled Banner is the national anthem.
    (b) Conduct During Playing.— During a rendition of the national anthem—
    (1) when the flag is displayed—
    (A) all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart;
    (B) men not in uniform should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold the headdress at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and
    (C) individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until the last note; and
    (2) when the flag is not displayed, all present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed.

    le 4 > Chapter 1 > Section 4 describes basically the exact same behaviour for the Pledge.

    Given that the Military is not saluting, neither the Pledge nor national anthem should be going on, but likely was either about to start or just ending since some people are in position.
    Hmmm. That's strange. I swear that DRob never put his hand over his heart and just stood at attention. Don't get me wrong, he stood as still as a statue, but never with his hand over his heart.

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    Hmmm. That's strange. I swear that DRob never put his hand over his heart and just stood at attention. Don't get me wrong, he stood as still as a statue, but never with his hand over his heart.
    Dunno. That's the current code, and what I have always known it as, even though I don't follow it (few people really do)

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    I thought troops stand at attention. That's what David Robinson did during the national anthem at every Spurs' game.
    Yes, standing at attention when out of uniform is the proper code of conduct and a salute while in uniform. At least it was when I was in the Corps.
    Semper Fi!!

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    When Palin gives some ridiculous explanation of why she doesn't want to wear the american flag pin, then she'll start to get the same criticism.

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    While on base and in uniform during reveille you stop and salute towards the flag and stand at attention when not in uniform.

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    When Palin gives some ridiculous explanation of why she doesn't want to wear the american flag pin, then she'll start to get the same criticism.
    I've noticed her wearing a huge flag pin every time I've seen her.

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    I've noticed her wearing a huge flag pin every time I've seen her.
    I know...thats my point. She wouldn't NOT wear the pin to make a statement that she's patriotic. Obama's explanation was pathetic.

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    I know...thats my point. She wouldn't NOT wear the pin to make a statement that she's patriotic. Obama's explanation was pathetic.
    Oh please. Since when does wearing a damn flag pin prove anybody's patriotism?

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    Oh please. Since when does wearing a damn flag pin prove anybody's patriotism?
    It doesn't, but Obama stated that too many people believe they can prove they're patriotic by just wearing the pin, therefore he decided that he wouldn't wear the pin.

    If he wants to prove that he's patriotic, there's a lot better ways to do it than to refuse to wear a pin that is the symbol of our country. A lot of better men died fighting for that symbol.

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    A lot of better men died fighting for that symbol.
    People died for their country and the people living in it, not for symbols.

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    More damning is the photo of her talking in front of a flag with only 49 stars.

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    If you don't want to say The Pledge of Allegiance to the United States and still be the DNC candidate for president........."Goddam the USKKKA".


    "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance



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    It seems to me the most likely scenario is that the Anthem was about to be played, but hasn't started yet. Some people placed their hand over their heart before others. People next to each other also tend to react as others.

    Or.. it could be a photo-shop of two pictures a few moments apart.

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    If you don't want to say The Pledge of Allegiance to the United States and still be the DNC candidate for president........."Goddam the USKKKA".


    "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance


    Lets not forget this is an actual picture of Obama just standing there...

    The video of the same scene clearly shows he dodn't even place his hand over his heart late!

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    Here's the next image in sequence from the photobucket:


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    It's amazing just how polar opposite conservatives are to teachings of Jesus.

    They display none of his compassion, understanding, patience, and love of humanity.

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    I thought troops stand at attention. That's what David Robinson did during the national anthem at every Spurs' game.
    No Mr. Peabody, they salute the flag when they are in uniform. This comes from a former sailor.

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    It's amazing just how polar opposite conservatives are to teachings of Jesus.

    They display none of his compassion, understanding, patience, and love of humanity.
    Oh, don't you remember? We can't impose our religion on anybody. The wall of separation!!

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