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NBA Top 50: Andrew Bynum (No. 24)
by Tom Ziller
http://nba.fanhouse.com/2008/09/15/n...w-bynum-no-24/
If Andrew Bynum is real, you're looking at the only lizard in the league who can crash the Dwight Howard-Greg Oden party of Best Beasts of Tomorrow.
Before February's cruel injury, Bynum lit the galaxy ablaze. The numbers were unspeakable for a 20-year-old: a double-double with two blocks in less than 30 minutes of work. If he's still learning the game and finding his body, the rest of the league is in immense trouble.
Again: what Bynum did last season in 35 games ... no one saw that coming so quickly. Look how his age-20 season compares to these recent young behemoths at the same age.
So, at age 20, Bynum was a better scorer, rebounder and shotblocker than every notable recent big man who was in the league by age 20 ... including Dwight Freaking Howard. And it can be argued Bynum's body was behind Howard and Jefferson at this point -- both those fellows came into the lig built like oxen. Bynum had baby fat and intsy calves last October when he started this mess.
No matter if Lamar Odom, Trevor Ariza, Luke Walton or Vlad Radmanovic start the small forward, Bynum combines with Pau Gasol to create one of the best rebounding lines in the NBA. All those problems competing on the glass against Boston? Gone, just because of Bynum's presence (and its bump of Gasol to his natural PF position). L.A. didn't need scoring help, and Bynum probably won't feature heavily in the offense, barring an injury to Kobe or Gasol. But the chances he gets, he'll convert. And the team certainly should look for him: he won't embarrass himself, with smart moves and a good mind to both protect the ball and find options when the interior gates close.
He's already L.A.'s best defender in the paint. Gasol's too slight, as we learned in June. Odom, while active, has neither the size nor the intuition to hold someone like David West or Tyson Chandler at bay. Bynum may not incite mirages of Bill Russell, but he's a stout, insistent player too proud to let himself be played a doll.
There's a chance Bynum went over his head in the first half of '07-08. There's a chance the injury has set him back a year and he won't keep improving right away. There's a chance Bynum was a breeze of excellence lone gone, replaced by a snake-bitten young curse, pricking Kobe's side is way far more innocent than Shaq did. As a fan of a division rival which thinks itself to be on an upswing, I desperately hope Bynum has already come ripe.
But science says that isn't the case. Get your helmets, Big Men of the NBA. It's gonna be a long decade.
Are you fukkin' kiddin' me???
off Portland and bow down to your master, es. The NBA is about to get served some A-Bomb.
ANDY MUTHERFUKIN BYNUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Just because the guy plays center and is one of the better centers in the league doesn't mean that he has to be a top 25 player does it?
I'm starting to get confused as to what this list is based on. Is it who you would draft today if starting a franchise? Or is it who do you think is the best player heading into the 08-09 season?
There is no doubt Bynum appears to have a bright future but in a big man's case the 36min comparison is drastically misleading. Could Bynum even try to handle 36 minutes a night to get to the numbers that Superman is putting up? Emphatically no, and while I understand that Howard will most certainly be a top 10 player on the list, I don't see how a guy who couldn't handle the rigors of 29 minutes a night over 35 games can be ranked as one of the top 25 best players in the league.
Bynum number 24 ?????????????????????????????
Whaaaaaaaaat ?
The list has Bynum better than Tracy McGrady, Allen Iverson, Baron Davis, Tony Parker, Caron Butler, Brandon Roy, Rudy Gay among others.
About Basketball Contributor Bio - Tom Ziller
Name: Tom Ziller
How You Got Interested in Basketball:
Two words: Duane. Causwell.
What Makes You Qualified to Write About Basketball:
I made business cards.
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I'm not saying that Bynum won't be good. Let's see if he can stay healthy long enough to compile a track record for evaluation.
A significantly above average center is probably more valuable than McGrady, Iverson, Davis, Parker, et ux. in an absolute sense. How many above average big men are there in the game today?
I think position does play a part in the ranking. Bynum does appear to be one of the best Centers. As there aren't that many good Centers, he gets bumped up.
Bynum seems to handle big minutes pretty well. The game before he got injured, he played 37 minutes with 25 points, 17 rebounds on 77% shooting.There is no doubt Bynum appears to have a bright future but in a big man's case the 36min comparison is drastically misleading. Could Bynum even try to handle 36 minutes a night to get to the numbers that Superman is putting up? Emphatically no, and while I understand that Howard will most certainly be a top 10 player on the list, I don't see how a guy who couldn't handle the rigors of 29 minutes a night over 35 games can be ranked as one of the top 25 best players in the league.
Before his injury he lead the league in Field Goal %, top 10 in blocks, top 5 in rebounds. He really is the most skilled Center right now (his speed is quite a bit better than most centers, footwork taught by Kareem, shooting touch like Yao, with good power). DHo and Yao are still ahead of Bynum but it isn't that much of a gap and a gap that I think he can close this year.
Last edited by Allanon; 09-16-2008 at 03:57 PM.
Uh, Bynum had a pretty freak injury. It's not like his body just broke down due to wear and tear. Considering he was only 20 Bynum and Lakers took the safe approach with his comeback. No point in rushing him back for the playoffs at the risk of 10 solid years of basketball.
Thats one game buddy, not saying he won't be good either, but you should check Carl Landry's numbers 2 wks into the streak, and after he hurt his ankle he was rendered useless.
The hype this guy gets is unjustifiable by any means.
Well we can count a few more games when he played more than 30 minutes as well. I'm not quite sure when Bynum moved to the starting lineup but I believe it was somtime in December.Thats one game buddy, not saying he won't be good either, but you should check Carl Landry's numbers 2 wks into the streak, and after he hurt his ankle he was rendered useless.
The hype this guy gets is unjustifiable by any means.
Jan 6 vs Indy, 34 mins, 23 pts, 13rbds, 73% shooting
Dec 25 vs Suns, 42 mins, 28 pts, 12 rbds, 85% shooting
Dec 23 vs Knicks, 38 mins, 13 pts, 8 rbds, 75% shooting
Dec 21 vs Philly, 36 mins, 24 pts, 11 rbds, 91% shooting
Bynum was still sharing minutes with the starter Kwame Brown so he didn't always get the big minutes.
But when he did get the big minutes, he usually made the most of them. His ridiculously high shooting percentage leads me to believe he doesn't tire out even in the 35+ minute games. His lack of PT was most likely Phil giving more minutes to Kwame Brown.
I like Carl Landry but I don't think he can compare to Bynum's run.
I agree with the Lakers' approach to things, but along with their optimism that Bynum has the potential to be a top center in the league, there has to be a serious concern that he is only 20 and has already had 3 knee surgeries, two in the last year and one as a teenager. I'm a basketball fan that never roots for anyone to get injured-- I want games and series to be won by teams at full strength that beat other teams at full strength-- but there's no way the owners, GMs, and coaches of the Lakers and Trailblazers don't lose sleep some nights wondering if their injury prone big men will be able to produce consistently for many years to come, or if the Bowie/Ralph Sampson/Jonathan Bender syndrome will haunt their teams.
I believe Bynum has had only 1 surgery (the most recent one), the others I don't believe were surgeries but not 100% sure about that. As far as surgeries go, this recent one was a minor one compared to the dreaded "microfracture" surgeries that ruined alot of those careers.
But you're right in that at 20 years old, the last word you want to hear with a player is surgery.
Big men break down faster, so the concerns people are voicing isn't exactly a case of a lot of smoke with no fire.
Bynum has only had 2 knee surgeries and both weren't 'serious' surgeries like say ACL reconstruction or microfracture.
Where the did you get 3 surgeries from? Bynum got his knee scoped around June this year.
Only two surgeries, wow, that does sound better.
Uh, sorry if it gets you angry to hear someone talk objectively about a subject... geez, lose your temper much?
I've read before that he had surgery on his knee when he was 13 or 14 years old. Go see a doctor. Maybe get some Xanax.
I recall that as well.
I'll buy his per-36 minute production potential is top-25 worthy, but those examined and inflated numbers were produced before Gasol arrived to steal offensive touches and rebounds, if not even minutes. Therefore, there's almost zero likelihood that his ratios will even match those of last year, thus this per-36 minute production potential doesn't really factor into reality. I doubt he gets the shots, the rebounds or the minutes to match last season.
If Bynum averages 12-15 points, 7-8 rebounds and 2 blocks in 25/30 minutes, the Lakers will be lucky.
By talk objectively you mean spout misinformation because thats what you were doing unless you can back that up with a source.
And sorry, the internet doesn't make me angry. Take your own advice about the Xanax though. Just make sure to take the entire bottle coupled with a fifth of Tanqueray No. Ten.
Suck Kobe's some more. It's the only thing you are really suited for doing in today's compe ive market.
http://www.hoopsfantasy.com/andrew-b...antasy-impact/
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