For the cap space. Odom gets $14 million this year then he's off the books.
Spur fans who say this is a lateral move don't understand team balance. It's ok....if this move does happen, the lakers are way better for it. If they keep Odom, than I'll guess we'll see as well. However, for a balanced team with proper spacing this makes way more sense than shoving Odom at the 3.
this trade would be horrible for the rest of the West..
Odom is extremely overrated..he did absolutely nothing against us last year on isolation plays..he couldn't even beat Fab most of the time..most of his offense comes from Kobe and even Gasol, and he has no jump shot..
Miller can create his own shot AND he's one of the better 3-point shooters in the NBA, which is something the Lakers will lack in their starting lineup..
hopefully Odom stays in LA..
Negative.
He's not soft but he's far from the enforcer you make him out to be. He's a jumpshooter who doesn't play much defense. He'll drive to the basket and take contact sometimes but those trips are few and far between.
I'm not sure what toughness you are talking about from a guy who doesn't play D, doesn't get to the free throw line and doesn't foul. What aspect of the game does he show toughness in? I'm not saying he's a bad player (I'd actually really like him on the Spurs) but toughness doesn't have anything to do with what makes him good.
They probably want him because he is better than Mike. He would also add some size to the roster with a line up of Love, Al and Odom that would be a nice athletic and skilled front line. Plus as mentioned, it would give them cap flexibility for the next two years, although next years cap space in not as important as 2010.
The only way Mike is better than Odom is at shooting, which might help the Lakers at the 3 spot, but I hope to God this trade happens. One because imo, it makes the Lakers much easier to deal with and two, I like the Wolves as well.
I've done more research and this is just pure speculation and not even a rumor really. Deep down I believe the lakers will try playing with Odom at the 3.
Won't LA need cap space to extend Bynum's contract?
This rumor has more holes in it than a block of swiss cheese.
Sasha and Miller on the same team would be a lot of metrosexuality to contend with.
You're definitely right about that one....too many hair braids for one team to contend with.
I mean no Odom fits better in the L.A i think because then we got 2 shooters and kobe shoots much and miller wont be getting as much shots as he used to get in Memphis.....
Phil is too smart to make this kind of trade.
it wont happen
lol please make this trade happen.
Kobe Bryant couldnt guard Paul Pierce by any means in the finals so how does Miller stand much of a chance than the Lakers best perimeter defender? Miller will be racking up fouls rather quickly if Pierce gets him one on one!
When Mike Miller fouls you, you'll get a bruise.
Looking through the league, you won't see many more shooting guards tougher than Mike Miller. What other shooting guards out there would give a good hard foul almost every time? Raja Bell, Matt Harpring are the 2 guys that come readily to mind other than Mike Miller.
That is the point exactly.
Miller ain't stopping Paul Pierce but Paul Pierce will surely remember each and every one of those fouls. With the bigger Lakers this year, the tables will be turned this year with the Celtics being the undersized team.
Why do you keep quoting me, I said he was tough, that is even in the parts you highlighted.
Ah, because timvp asked why I thought he was tough, just showin' it's not just me that thinks so.
But he is tough because the way he plays, not because he takes hard fouls. I have never seen him be the enforcer you make him out to be. He is tough because he always stays in the game and competes and is not afraid to go to the rim or to guard players.
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Yes, all those qualities make him tough, I agree. You've never seen Mike Miller take a hard foul on somebody?
Not really. Maybe a few times, but I have seen Matt Bonner take some hard fouls. I think Mike's toughness is with regard to his mental strength and at ude. He won't back down ever, even if that means playing more physical than he would like to. He would take a hard foul if the coach or players asked him to. I guess you could say that some players would not do that.
This trade would actually be a small step back for the Lakers. The Lakers already have enough jumpshooters. Mike is a better shooter, but his defense is less than average. He may give you three more ppg than Odom, but he will give 10 back at the other end of the court.
Also, Mike is more of a small forward, I mean he is like 6'8. Nocioni is a guy I would classify as "hard". Mike is just tough.
Yes I agree, he's tough, you don't have to convince me, it's timvp that doesn't think so "Since when is Mike Miller gritty or tough?"
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