Mike Miller to Lakers---the party's over!

[Allanon]

You are crazy! So, I want you to state that the Lakers will win 70 games so that we can have it on record. That way we can bump this thread and see how close you were.

Yes, barring any major extended injuries (Kobe or Bynum) I think the Lakers will win 70 games this year. If not 70, it will be pretty damn close ... 66+ range.

This Laker team is the most talented since the Showtime days...even more talented than the no-depth Kobe/Shaq days.

Lakers only lost 4 games in 2.5 months when Pau played after the trade. With Bynum + Ariza back to full health.......watch out 95/96 Bulls.

[DPG21920]

I don't think this deal is anywhere close to being done. And even if it were, Collins is strictly a salary filler. He could be retired for all the Lakers care.

It was a joke. Collins brothers could be the worst twins ever in basketball.

[sook]

believe it or not Lakers fans, Odumb isn't a bad player.

He gives you guys Key size and you don't need another jump shooter trust me.

All the defensive power house teams give the lakers problems so thats what they need to upgrade on.

[bostonguy]

Lakers are an underrated defensive team because they play at a high tempo so there's alot of scoring regardless. Lakers were one of the best defensive teams last year in almost every stat category except ppg allowed but that's the result of the speed of the game. A more telling stat would be opponent fg% which the Lakers were something like top 5.

A bigger team will be much more effective than last year. Last year the Celtics totally abused the Lakers inside. You don't stop guys like Paul Pierce, but you can foul the out of them to slow them down.

This year, Perkins will have to deal with Bynum instead of Odom. No more PJ Brown. Who's gonna sub in for Perkins when he gets in foul trouble guarding Bynum...6'9 Glenn Davis?

Kobe gets the Allens instead of Posey.

Not having Posey and PJ Brown this year is gonna cost the Celtics their repeat.

Although I don't like a Mike Miller trade at least he'll bring some toughness to the Lakers if it does happen.

For an unproven championship winning team, you sure do run your mouth like they are proven. You are scared of the Celts. You rooted for the Pistons to beat us this year because you knew the Celts were going to beat you. Now you are getting on your knees praying that Posey will be such a huge loss for the Celts. Giddens/Walker are capable of being productive role players and while that wont replace what Posey brought, it will be good enough to aim for a repeat.

Kobe hasnt proven he can lead the Lakers to a championship. The Lakers showed havent shown they can handle true adversity. Gasol is soft and Odom goes MIA when it matters most. Bynum needs to also prove he can stay healthy.

You really shouldnt be running your mouth like the Lakers have no worries or concerns. They still havent proven themselves as champions. Until this current core does that, you have no right to talk. You ought to be more respectful to your daddies.

[Allanon]

For an unproven championship winning team, you sure do run your mouth like they are proven. You are scared of the Celts. You rooted for the Pistons to beat us this year because you knew the Celts were going to beat you. Now you are getting on your knees praying that Posey will be such a huge loss for the Celts. Giddens/Walker are capable of being productive role players and while that wont replace what Posey brought, it will be good enough to aim for a repeat.

You don't actually think the Celtics improved their team this year do you? Letting "Kobe-Stoppa" Posey walk was the best Christmas present the Celtics could have given the Lakers

I was afraid of the Celts last year this is true. But this year, I don't even think they're going to make it out of the East. So no, not worried about the green guys at all. They're a year older and a defensive stopper or two shorter.

Kobe hasnt proven he can lead the Lakers to a championship. The Lakers showed havent shown they can handle true adversity. Gasol is soft and Odom goes MIA when it matters most. Bynum needs to also prove he can stay healthy.

Bynum is all that is needed. Fans are going to be crying to trade up Perkins after Bynum is done with him.

You really shouldnt be running your mouth like the Lakers have no worries or concerns. They still havent proven themselves as champions. Until this current core does that, you have no right to talk. You ought to be more respectful to your daddies.

The only thing the Lakers need to be worried about this year is health. I'll be really enjoying my Christmas dinner this year

[urunobili]

please do this Kuptchak! and become early ejaculation chokers!

[thispego]

LOL. lakers fans are so stupid. you got gasol for nothing! any success your team has from last season on deserves an *. You. Got. Gasol. For. Nothing. stop acting like your amazed at how talented your team is... it's all a farce and a major slap in the face to the rest of the league.

[urunobili]

LOL. lakers fans are so stupid. you got gasol for nothing! any success your team has from last season on deserves an *. You. Got. Gasol. For. Nothing. stop acting like your amazed at how talented your team is... it's all a farce and a major slap in the face to the rest of the league.

Thanks... that made me feel better about the fact that Garnett has a ring now...

[Allanon]

LOL. lakers fans are so stupid. you got gasol for nothing! any success your team has from last season on deserves an *. You. Got. Gasol. For. Nothing. stop acting like your amazed at how talented your team is... it's all a farce and a major slap in the face to the rest of the league.

I'm not amazed about the amont of talent, I'm amazed at how quick it was from the lottery 3 years ago...thank you Chris Wallace!

I think I can live with an asterik and a few rings

[thispego]

Thanks... that made me feel better about the fact that Garnett has a ring now...

does it really bother you that kg has a ring? it doesnt me at all. celtics built a legit le contender the old fashioned way and it worked out for them. I'm just glad the lakers' cheating ways werent rewarded with another championship.

[thispego]

I think I can live with an asterik and a few rings

i'd rather revel in rings my team won fair and square than enjoy ill-gotten success

[Sean Cagney]

Odom is better IMO, alot harder to guard for the Spurs than Miller would be.

[thispego]

goddamn if only i had the power to ban on this . you'd all be ing gone like dust in the wind.

[Banzai]

goddamn if only i had the power to ban on this . you'd all be ing gone like dust in the wind.

your avatar is funny.

[thispego]

Excuse me, can you tell me how to get to the medical school? I'm supposed to be giving a lecture in about twenty minutes and my driver's a bit lost.

You go straight ahead and you make a left over da bridge.

That's a lovely accent you have. New Jersey?

Austria.

hah Well then, g'day, mate. Let's throw another shrimp on the barbie.

Let's not.

[Allanon]

Excuse me, can you tell me how to get to the medical school? I'm supposed to be giving a lecture in about twenty minutes and my driver's a bit lost.

You go straight ahead and you make a left over da bridge.

That's a lovely accent you have. New Jersey?

Austria.

hah Well then, g'day, mate. Let's throw another shrimp on the barbie.

Let's not.

"Pardon me, do you have any Grey Poupon?"

One of the funniest movies ever for sure.

[T Park]

Miller is a worse choker and what not than Odom is.

Do that trade Lakers, please.

[bostonguy]

You don't actually think the Celtics improved their team this year do you? Letting "Kobe-Stoppa" Posey walk was the best Christmas present the Celtics could have given the Lakers

They will be improved within themselves. They have the experience and they know what it takes to get the job done. Getting rid of Paul "Laker Killer" Pierce would have been the best xmas gift for Lakers fans especially after the way he outplayed Kobe in the biggest stage of em all. The celts still have the boston three party, an improving pg in rondo and a solid bigman in Perkins. JR Giddens is going to be a nice wing player to have on the team this year. Celts management have done their job well finding the pieces to fit about Bostons big 3.

I was afraid of the Celts last year this is true. But this year, I don't even think they're going to make it out of the East. So no, not worried about the green guys at all. They're a year older and a defensive stopper or two shorter.

It's not that you dont think they are coming out of the east. It's that you hope they arent coming out of the east. You would prefer to play anyone else. Age wont be a factor for anyone other than possibly Ray Allen but he is more than good enough to be a 3rd option still. Lakers bench has 3 scrubs in Powell/Walton/Vlad, Sasha is okay but nothing special, Mihm is often injured, Farmar is inconsistent and Ariza is a good defensive player with no jumper. Keep Odom from going left and he is useless, Gasol is soft, Fisher isnt getting any younger which leaves you with Kobe/Bynum. Your team is good but it isnt that good.

Bynum is all that is needed. Fans are going to be crying to trade up Perkins after Bynum is done with him.

I can live with Bynum and Kobe getting their points while the Celts D locks down on everyone else. Go ahead and underestimate the Celtics though. You didnt think they were good enough this year either.

The only thing the Lakers need to be worried about this year is health. I'll be really enjoying my Christmas dinner this year

Nah it is more than just health. This Lakers team hasn't handled adversity well when it's hit them.When this Lakers is able to overcome real adversity, come back and talk to me. When Kobe is able to lead his team during these moments, come back and talk to me.

I know the xmas day game is one you are salivating over. It is killing you inside that the Celtics are the team that prevented LA from winning the championship especially with that 39 point ass kicking they gave them to seal it.

[Allanon]

They will be improved within themselves. They have the experience and they know what it takes to get the job done. Getting rid of Paul "Laker Killer" Pierce would have been the best xmas gift for Lakers fans especially after the way he outplayed Kobe in the biggest stage of em all. The celts still have the boston three party, an improving pg in rondo and a solid bigman in Perkins. JR Giddens is going to be a nice wing player to have on the team this year. Celts management have done their job well finding the pieces to fit about Bostons big 3.

Hahah, "they will be improved within themselves"...very original answer. Everybody knows the Celtics downgraded when they let Kobe Stoppa Posey walk away and lost the toughness of PJ Brown. The media even wrote some article about how the Celtics are no longer favored to repeat because of this boneheaded move.

It's not that you dont think they are coming out of the east. It's that you hope they arent coming out of the east. You would prefer to play anyone else. Age wont be a factor for anyone other than possibly Ray Allen but he is more than good enough to be a 3rd option still. Lakers bench has 3 scrubs in Powell/Walton/Vlad, Sasha is okay but nothing special, Mihm is often injured, Farmar is inconsistent and Ariza is a good defensive player with no jumper. Keep Odom from going left and he is useless, Gasol is soft, Fisher isnt getting any younger which leaves you with Kobe/Bynum. Your team is good but it isnt that good.

Actually I wish the Celtics would come out of the East because the Lakers could beat them easily now. I just don't think it's going to happen. Teams like the the Cavs and Sixers actually improved in the offseason while the Celtics FO patted themselves on the back and "improved within themselves".

I can live with Bynum and Kobe getting their points while the Celts D locks down on everyone else. Go ahead and underestimate the Celtics though. You didnt think they were good enough this year either.

Celtics can't live with Bynum and Kobe getting their points.

Nah it is more than just health. This Lakers team hasn't handled adversity well when it's hit them.When this Lakers is able to overcome real adversity, come back and talk to me. When Kobe is able to lead his team during these moments, come back and talk to me.

Adversity? I'm pretty sure it was the Celtics that didn't face adversity last year while the Lakers had more adversity than practically any team. Let's see, Lakers started 3 centers in the same season, Kobe required surgery on his pinky since All-Star, traded off 2 more guys for Ariza, then Trevor Ariza got lost for the season, traded for and integrated Pau in mid-season. I don't think much more adversity could have happened to 1 team.

I know the xmas day game is one you are salivating over. It is killing you inside that the Celtics are the team that prevented LA from winning the championship especially with that 39 point ass kicking they gave them to seal it.

Nah, by Christmas time, there wouldn't be much left for the Lakers dominance to prove on the season. The Christmas Day game is not about revenge but rather it will be about enjoyment

[bostonguy]

Hahah, "they will be improved within themselves"...very original answer. Everybody knows the Celtics downgraded when they let Kobe Stoppa Posey walk away and lost the toughness of PJ Brown.

Those 2 wont be why we wont be able to repeat. Go ahead and keep thinking that though. They will be much better at closing out series and not allowing them to go 7 games. They know what it takes to get the job done unlike that current Lakers team.

Actually I wish the Celtics would come out of the East because the Lakers could beat them easily now. I just don't think it's going to happen. Teams like the the Cavs and Sixers actually improved in the offseason while the Celtics FO patted themselves on the back.

It's not that you dont think it is going to happen. You hope it isnt going to happen. The Cavs put better role players around Lebron but that wont be enough. Again, the Celts will be better at closing out series this year. Sixers did improve but not enough to dethrone the defending champs. And at thinking the Lakers would have it easy vs the Celts. Laker fans hatred of the Celts is flat out comedy.

Celtics can't live with Bynum and Kobe getting their points.

Sure they can because those 2 will be working hard as to get their points while the Celts D locks everyone else down. 2 on 5 wont be enough to beat the Celts.

Adversity? I'm pretty sure it was the Celtics that didn't face adversity last year while the Lakers had more adversity than practically any team. Let's see, Lakers started 3 centers in the same season, Kobe required surgery on his pinky since All-Star, traded off 2 more guys for Ariza, then Trevor Ariza got lost for the season, traded for and integrated Pau in mid-season. I don't think much more adversity could have happened to 1 team.

Celts had 2 game 7's and faced a 10 point deficit on the road against the Pistons. Lakers swept the worst team in the postseason in Denver, beat Utah in an easy 6, and beat the spurs in 5 games. That wasnt much (if any) of playoff adversity. Then comes along the finals and they finally face tough times and the get exposed. Huge difference between regular season and playoff adversity. Celts have proven themselves in true playoff adversity while the Lakers have not.

Nah, by Christmas time, there wouldn't be much left for the Lakers dominance to prove on the season. The Christmas Day game is not about revenge but rather it will be about enjoyment

The city of Los Angeles disagrees with you there. When I visited that city last month, I wore my Paul Pierce jersey all over downtown one day. Tons of Laker fans kept saying "xmas day you are going down" etc etc etc. They are salivating over that game and deep down inside you are too. You need any kind of early satisfaction to make yourself feel like you are superior to the Celts.


It is still bothering the out of you that this took place and this taste hasnt gone away.....

[Allanon]

Those 2 wont be why we wont be able to repeat. Go ahead and keep thinking that though. They will be much better at closing out series and not allowing them to go 7 games. They know what it takes to get the job done unlike that current Lakers team.

Again, not just me that thinks this. The media and even Celtic fans are pissed that the Celtics let Posey walk, most people think the Celtics down-graded rather than "improved from within".

It's not that you dont think it is going to happen. You hope it isnt going to happen. The Cavs put better role players around Lebron but that wont be enough. Again, the Celts will be better at closing out series this year. Sixers did improve but not enough to dethrone the defending champs. And at thinking the Lakers would have it easy vs the Celts. Laker fans hatred of the Celts is flat out comedy.

No I hope it does happen, it'll be the easiest Finals since Philadelphia a few years ago. I'm more worried about LeBron.

Sure they can because those 2 will be working hard as to get their points while the Celts D locks everyone else down. 2 on 5 wont be enough to beat the Celts.

Bynum's gonna work hard getting points against Perkins? Kobe's going to have a hard time scoring on Tony Allen? Hahah, it's going to be like a kid in a candy store for Kobe and Bynum. Celtics have no answer for them this year.

Celts had 2 game 7's and faced a 10 point deficit on the road against the Pistons. Lakers swept the worst team in the postseason in Denver, beat Utah in an easy 6, and beat the spurs in 5 games. That wasnt much (if any) of playoff adversity. Then comes along the finals and they finally face tough times and the get exposed. Huge difference between regular season and playoff adversity. Celts have proven themselves in true playoff adversity while the Lakers have not.

The Lakers had an easy first round. Jazz were much tougher than anticipated and the Lakers came back from being majorly down on the Spurs...not quite Celtic adversity but enough if combined with their plagued season while the Celtics waltzed through the regular season.

The city of Los Angeles disagrees with you there. When I visited that city last month, I wore my Paul Pierce jersey all over downtown one day. Tons of Laker fans kept saying "xmas day you are going down" etc etc etc. They are salivating over that game and deep down inside you are too. You need any kind of early satisfaction to make yourself feel like you are superior to the Celts.

It's fun talking smack to Celtic fans. If I were to meet a Celtic fan at a bar, I'd tell him the same smack. Doesn't mean I'm afraid. I gave kudos to the Celtics for their win last year but this year. Posey stopped Kobe, Perkins, KG and PJ Brown beat the crap out of Pau and Odom. This year though, the Celtics lost alot of that toughness and don't stand a chance with Bynumite and Ariza returning.

[bostonguy]

It's fun talking smack.

We agreed on something

[Allanon]

We agreed on something

Indeed

[bostonguy]

Hey, answer me this... and be honest. Who were you cheering for during that 21 year absence of the Celtics? Trust me, were hoping that we can meet again so we can send you on another 20 year vacation... just like last time

Well that did improve your finals record vs Boston to 2-8 but it worsened to an overall 2-9 record this year.

[bostonguy]

No, serious, did you remain a die-hard Celtics fan or were you cheering for any team that played the Lakers. Its cool to admit it, I mean, Im a die-hard Raiders fan, but not recently

Sadly I was born the year LA beat them in 87. I didnt start watching basketball until 1995 when the Celts got their asses kicked by the Magic. Your dawg Ricardo Fox was on the roster during the time.

I was also a proud witness to the Antoine Walker era during his time in Boston.