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He doesn't wear an American flag lapel and he doesn't like to sing the national anthem.
America! Yeah!
I'm gonna kick your ass!
I don't want a list of every bill he ever co-sponsored.
Is it writing two memoires and making three speeches (04 DNC, his anti-Iraq speech and his Germany speech)?
Thats all that comes to mind. What am I missing?
He doesn't wear an American flag lapel and he doesn't like to sing the national anthem.
America! Yeah!
I'm gonna kick your ass!
You must now stand up to eat instead of sitting down before taking dirty money from lobbyists.
He redesigned the presidential seal.
Nice.
btw - Im not even restricting this debate to his senate years. What is his signature achievment as an adult?
winning the democratic nomination......pretty badass for a black man in this country.
Okay..thats one vote for:
1) Winning the Democratic Nomination.
Anything else?
NOPE - and they're even finding now that some of what he put in his books is pure fabrication and fiction.
Here is Obama's signature achievement: He didn't mislead the American public about an existential threat from Iraq. He didn't drive the economy into the ground. He didn't tell Americans to "go shopping" after 9.11. In short, he's not a ing moron.
But, but, George Bush had "executive experience" before he went in office
I still don't see what's wrong with the economy...
Do you make more money today than you did 8 years ago??
Yeah, the economy is in great shape. Just ask Wall Street. And no, I don't make more money than I did 8 years, but that's only because I'm some dirty hippie welfare cheat.
John McCain, is that you?
Wrong question.
It's "Can you buy more than you did 8 years ago?". Income can grow, but the economy still be bad because inflation outpaces it. Buying power (comparing income to product costs) is the thing to look into.
Over the last 8 years, my income has gone up 10k. My buying power, while better than 8 years ago, is not 33% higher than it was 8 years ago like my salary is.
Economic production in this country is still pretty good ,but the distribution of wealth has been concentrated upwards.
my economy is just fine...now that's the real question isn't
So far, Ive seen
1) He's the democratic nominee
2) He's not Bush
This isn't looking good for Obama supporters. His "list of achievements" is starting to resemble John Kerry's. Plus, Bush isn't even running this time.
Anything else?
whether you see it as good, bad, or indifferent there is no question that his campaign is the most significant thing he's done.
I'm sorry I just don't see whats wrong with it...I make three times what I made seven years ago because I've worked my ass off. I've made sound investments, didn't get stuck in a huge mortgage (bought a house worth half of the amount that the bank approved me for). If it wasn't for Ike, I was going to be looking for a beach house in the next year or so. Again, I don't see what's wrong with th economy. And I think that if you ask, most people will say that they make more than they did when Bush took office.
So you are saying that your economy is fine.
hahahahahahahahahahahhahhahahaha
Well, the anecdotal evidence of one person certainly trumps economic statistics.
"Most of my friends are better off too." Yeah, birds of a feather flock together. And again, it's not about income, it's purchasing power.
Get a new/second/third job if you want more personal wealth.
Im not saying its not....
Count this as another vote for option 1 (he's the nominee).
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