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    We need Manu healthy. We need Mason to gel. We need to salvage something from our off season additions, anything..

    and maybe we can steal a championship this coming season.

    Other then that I think the team rankings are exactly the same as the teams exited in the last playoffs until proven otherwise.

    So LA,Spurs,NoH,Utah,

    then the rest...

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    I'd rather the Spurs be 4th or 5th, so that they can play the Rockets/Jazz. That is one 1st round they WON'T lose. I seriously don't want to see a Phoenix matchup to start again, even with The Big Cactus ruining the run n' gun style.

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    How good do you expect the Spurs to be this year? Try to be as unbiased and logical as possible. Will Ian even play for the Spurs? Will he contribute? What about Hill? What about Mason? Can Mason be a legit factor off the bench? Will Thomas/Oberto/Ian be a good frontcourt? Will the Spurs' shooting suffer with the loss of Barry and Finley (I realize Finley is still on the team but he is too old to consistently shoot well)?
    Ian will play for the Spurs out of necessity. The plan was to bring in Splitter but that has been scratched. Ian's athleticism is good to have provided it nets the Spurs a few more rebounds. That's all i ask of him - rebounding on the defensive end. If he manages to get 8 or more a game, then i'll be happy with him. As for the other stuff, hopefully someone could amply fill the void created by Brent's departure.

    Personally I still think the Spurs will be good. We have the Big Three + Bowen and that is a good enough core to be a solid team in the league. However, at this point, I would say that we aren't legit contenders. I say the Spurs will be one of those teams that is definitely a threat, but in all likelyhood is just a second round PO team. I hope I'm wrong but I can't see the Spurs as being more than that at this point unless the team comes together surprisingly well.
    The Big 3 will be solid as usual. The question is the bench. They failed us last year.

    With the latter said, that is one thing I want the Spurs to do this season. I want them to put more effort into the regular season. And I don't mean go balls to the wall and I don't mean Pop increasing minutes. I mean putting forth more effort in developing team chemistry. IMO that really hurt us last year. The Spurs didn't give a about the regular season (completely understandable) but with that, they never really developed solid chemistry as a team. To me, that was clearly evident in the Lakers series. When Ginobili went down, it was the role players' time to step up and Barry was truly the only one who seized that opportunity. The Spurs lacked that team chemistry that the Lakers and Celtics had. That's one thing I hope I see this season is more of an effort to develop some chemistry. I think our championship hopes hinge on that factor alone (along with health).
    Because of the injuries suffered by Tim, Manu and Tony early in the season, SPAM never happened. No gelling happened putting more impetus on the Spurs' big guns to play harder just to catch up. Hopefully, the Spurs, especially the Big 3 could stay away from the injury bug. i think they'll be at #3-5 by the end of the RS.

    So how does everyone else feel about the Spurs this season? I'm still excited regardless and I've found myself watching old Spurs games to fill that void until the season starts.
    GO SPURS GO!

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    Well, judging from last season, the Spurs I believe without bias were the better team. They just lacked a good counter for the best player on the Lakers. I believe with the addition of Ian Mahinmi (hopefully he plays well if he makes the roster), he should be able to meet Kobe above the rim. Bruce isn't athletic enough to hang in the air with Kobe, but does a great job of making him work and disrupting his vision when elevating for a jumper. Pop would much rather have Kobe shooting than doing a layup drill.

    I would have to say regarding the topic, that it is really hard to predict how the Spurs will do. There are too many question marks to give an educated guess. If their chemistry works out and the new additions to the roster are in tune with the system, I would say the Spurs have a great shot at the le. I can see them probably anywhere between 2-4.

    If the new additions are terrible, then Spurs will probably be around 6-8.

    The biggest importance isn't Manu. It's getting an athletic big to counter the high flyers, and Tyson Chandlers. Might make for decent rebounding too. Even with Manu not at 100%, the Spurs still ran up big leads on the Lakers.

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    Dude, I saw you the first time. Great, you were a game better than us instead of a game worse like I thought. My bad. Now off.
    Your logic fails in so many ways. We add Ron Artest and technically Yao Ming and you don't think we have gotten better? Are you that biased or just an idoit?

    If you actually used your brain, maybe you would have realized right away that the reason we had homecourt was because we had a better record. And wtf is up with you claiming you ended our 22 game win streak? That was Boston waaay before we played yall the last time.

    Also, where the do you get off claiming our 22 game win streak was a fluke? How the can winning 22 straight games be a fluke? so if we would have won 21 out of 22 games in a row, would that not be a fluke? I doubt that is that uncommon. There were plenty of close calls that we showed poise to pull out with wins. Instead of dismissing it, why not admire what your team didn't do?

    Would you call it a fluke if Utah won 22 in a row?

    We took you to 6 games without our best player, and without our starting pg for the first two games. We might have even gone to a game 7 if it wasn't for a BS flopaleinko call. T-Mac, Battier and Rafer were all playing with major injuries which they all received surgery for days after game 6.

    Yes, you beat us (barely) fair and square the year before. Are you convinced you would have beaten us if we had Scola Landry and a much better Rafer Alston that year? I doubt it.

    Again, we add Ron Artest and you don't think we've gotten better? Seriously? Seriously? What the have you guys done that makes you better than us? We add Yao and Artest to our series last season and you still think you would have won?
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    Keys to a Spurs Championship:

    -Mason is the second coming of S-Jax
    -Ginobili comes back in December/Januray with the 05 look
    -An injury to the lakers/rocktes yields them from running away with the #1 spot.
    -Spurs earn a #1 or #2 seed spot
    -Hill/Mahimni are not good or bad
    You left out another key team to beat. NO with Josey and without Pargo got better. CP3,West,Tyson=TP,Manu,Timmy. (maybe better). But your right without #1 or #2 seed our team will go home early.

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    Who did Utah add?

    Ahem....

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    Who did Utah add?
    You left out another key team to beat. NO with Josey and without Pargo got better. CP3,West,Tyson=TP,Manu,Timmy. (maybe better). But your right without #1 or #2 seed our team will go home early.

    Anyone expecting the Hornets to stay healthy with guys like West and Chandler and CP3, AGAIN, for 82 games, is foolhearty.

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    Nothing. But we'll have Korver for the entire year as opposed to half of it and Ronnie Brewer/Paul Millsap are not second year players anymore. We also shipped out Jason Hart who had a bad at ude and probably wasn't helping the ambiance in the locker room too much.

    And like you said, NOH is injury prone and they lost Pargo. Plus, even if NO had a better record than us last year, we're hands-down the better team. We were near as good of a regular season team as SA last year. We didn't need to add anybody, if you don't think losing Ginobili puts SA behind Utah in the regular season W/L column, well that's your prerogative I guess.

    Listen here you ing : You have something to say, do it with a measure of respect. You just want to go the off like a pussy, whiny, little and I refuse discuss with you. Where the do you get off son? Yeah great, you added a huge, slow center with a broken foot that was played on too soon and a legitimate psycho, play breaker, who's been a cancer in every locker-room he's ever hung his jock strap in. you. the Rockets. I hope you had fun watching us while your guys were sitting at home the past two years. Get ready to do it again. Suck DEEEEEEEEEEEEZ NUTS. ing .

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    Nothing. But we'll have Korver for the entire year as opposed to half of it and Ronnie Brewer/Paul Millsap are not second year players anymore. We also shipped out Jason Hart who had a bad at ude and probably wasn't helping the ambiance in the locker room too much.

    And like you said, NOH is injury prone and they lost Pargo. Plus, even if NO had a better record than us last year, we're hands-down the better team. We were near as good of a regular season team as SA last year. We didn't need to add anybody, if you don't think losing Ginobili puts SA behind Utah in the regular season W/L column, well that's your prerogative I guess.


    Listen here you ing : You have something to say, do it with a measure of respect. You just want to go the off like a pussy, whiny, little and I refuse discuss with you. Where the do you get off son? Yeah great, you added a huge, slow center with a broken foot that was played on too soon and a legitimate psycho, play breaker, who's been a cancer in every locker-room he's ever hung his jock strap in. you. the Rockets. I hope you had fun watching us while your guys were sitting at home the past two years. Get ready to do it again. Suck DEEEEEEEEEEEEZ NUTS. ing .
    I agree Utah did not have to add much. If Ronnie Brewer (whom I love as a player) can build on his season, that alone would help.

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    if you don't think losing Ginobili puts SA behind Utah in the regular season W/L column, well that's your prerogative I guess
    The Spurs schedule early on is pretty forgiving.

    WL in the regular season doesn't mean jack . Playoffs is where its won, and the Jazz are still gonna be probobly the dumbest team in the playoffs.

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    I agree Utah did not have to add much. If Ronnie Brewer (whom I love as a player) can build on his season, that alone would help.
    Utah is still a paper tiger.

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    The Spurs schedule early on is pretty forgiving.

    WL in the regular season doesn't mean jack . Playoffs is where its won, and the Jazz are still gonna be probobly the dumbest team in the playoffs.
    First off, we have won more playoff series in the past two years than a whole of a lot of other teams have. Second, I've already said in this thread and two others that the Spurs are more of a championship contender than we are. Read first.

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    Utah is still a paper tiger.
    I agree with that. They have the talent, but they just cannot put it together. Sometimes Okur plays like a beast, then sometimes just so bad. Same with AK. I like the team, but they would be the team I would most like to face in the playoffs.

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    I agree with that. They have the talent, but they just cannot put it together. Sometimes Okur plays like a beast, then sometimes just so bad. Same with AK. I like the team, but they would be the team I would most like to face in the playoffs.
    I've got a secret that nobody outside of Utah has figured out: The problem is Boozer.

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    the Jazz don't worry me at all..they're a good team, but like many Jazz fans acknowledge, we're one of THOSE teams that they can't beat..every team has certain teams that own them, and that's how we are with the Jazz..

    Utah has done very well vs. New Orleans and Boston IIRC though..

    that Jazz vs. Lakers series last year really disappointed me..Utah had A LOT of chances to win games, and they couldn't come through, particularly Boozer..I don't even remember him making 2 shots in a row during that series..they got screwed by the refs in 1 game, but they had plenty of chances to win the games, and they couldn't come through when it mattered..I hated Sloan playing Harpring that much though..

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    I've got a secret that nobody outside of Utah has figured out: The problem is Boozer.
    What are they supposed to do?

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    i think were still a top 4 team. if we land some where between 5-8 i would honestly be surprised. if we dont make the playoffs at all i think it will be by design.

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    i think were still a top 4 team. if we land some where between 5-8 i would honestly be surprised. if we dont make the playoffs at all i think it will be by design.
    Yes, I think the Spurs can make the Playoffs with their eyes closed. The question would be whether or not they think they will win the championship.

    If they feel they can only compete but not contend for a championship, I would not be surprised if they tank the whole thing.

    The only thing that might screw everything up is that the 2009 draft pick is already traded away, I do not know if it's lottery/high lottery protected or not. If it's not protected, you can count on the Spurs being in the Playoffs.

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    What are they supposed to do?
    Let him walk. Or trade him for a true defender and some cap space. The fact is Utah is on the record as to not going over the cap and thus we're not keeping AK, Boozer and the Millsap/Brewer combo. One of the three has to go. I say Booze- he's non-existent on defense and when he faces tough compe ion he hides like a frightened turtle on offense. Look no further than this past year's playoffs- we beat Houston with Boozer playing like and then Odom/Gasol literally shut him the down and Deron couldn't compensate. Imagine if we ever had to face TD, Dwight Howard, KG or developed versions of Oden/Bynum. Boozer is a joke, we have no trouble scoring with or without him and defensively we'd be better off no matter who we brought in as a replacement. I don't care how, but Utah needs to get him gone.

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    Blah blah blah I'm a dumbass
    I find it really funny that dodged all questions I asked you. the Rockets? ouch, that hurts.

    You have yet to tell me why you can just dismiss the rockets. Open your eyes buddy. If you can only hope that Yao gets hurt again and Artest is a locker room "cancer" in a contract year, you are in for a reality check.

    To be on topic, I honestly think that any team with Tim Duncan, Tony Parker and even a not completely healthy Manu Ginobili coached by Greg Popovich is capable of winning a championship.

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    I find it really funny that dodged all questions I asked you.
    I dodged all the questions you asked because you freaked out like a little and started talking serious . no, I'm not going to answer your questions after that little tantrum.

    If in the future you ever want to engage in a mature conversation with me, then do it and I'll respond, but don't spaz, cry and call me a bunch of names over my take on the Rockets- especially when you have 25 posts to my 1700. I don't know you, I had nothing against you and you tripped out like a ing gy 3 year old. As far as I'm concerned the conversation in this thread, with you, is over. Try to handle your better the next time you try to talk to me.
    Son.

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    How can anybody look at Mason's stats and expect him to have any impact with the Spurs?

    http://www.nba.com/playerfile/roger_...eer_stats.html

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    Dood our offense is going to be insane. Especially now that we got rid of Barry!

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