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Rappin' Shaq is gonna be PISSED when he sees this list!
andat Bynum being better than Dirk
You're stupid. Dirk is far from an 'inside player'. And Bynum averaged a DOUBLE DOUBLE last season. You're extra re ed.
Every GM in the league would take a 20 year old Bynum over a 20 year old Dirk.
Rappin' Shaq is gonna be PISSED when he sees this list!
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Better down low than Yao is
Order, fixed.
1. Yao Ming, Houston: It's time for Yao to start acting and playing like a former No. 1 pick and lead the Rockets deep into the playoffs. With both Tracy McGrady and Ron Artest alongside him, there should be no reason why Yao can't get the Rockets past any of the Western contenders.
2. Dwight Howard, blah, blah, blah, ing, blah, blah.
Howard has all the potential in the world, and every opportunity to become one of the greatest centers of all time.
Yao has been in the league longer and has an all around better tea
and another superstar to play with, yet Howard has still made it farther in the playoffs than Yao.
If the Rockets don't get past the first round this year, then you can forget about Yao even being the 2nd best center.
Oden will be ahead of him in a year or two.
what the is this ?
The truth? There is no "big meltdown" that you imagine
you can guess my motive all you want, but im just asking a simple question.
Based on your comment - "dirk, who i dont even like, has been on the verge of averaging a double double in 82 games multiple times. Bynum has never been close to that. "
All im asking is, whats the diff in MPG?
Dirk was close. But Bynum actually DID.
I think he avg 13 points, 10 rebounds.
lol but how did almost winning a le come into play?The truth? There is no "big meltdown" that you imagine
[QUOTE=21_Blessings;2777148]You're stupid. Dirk is far from an 'inside player'. And Bynum averaged a DOUBLE DOUBLE last season. You're extra re ed.
I think the key is 82 games.
He's probably going to that this year though, if he actually bounces back 80+%
From what we can see at this point, right now? I would take Dirk over Bynum every day of the week.
But when both were 20 when we don't know how Dirk can blossom into one of the best players in the league? Yeah, I would probably take Bynum.
seems a lot of people here havent finished highschool yet.
IN 82 GAMES.
bynum averaged a double double (13.1 and 10.2) for 35 games.
dirk averaged 23.4 pts and 9.9 in 76 games, 25.1 and 9.9 in 80 games, 26.1 and 9.7 in 78 games. Each one of those seasons is far more impressive both in output and sample size.
as for the MPG argument, dirk played 38-39 mpg during those seasons. bynum played 28.8 for his.
does bynum have room to improve? yes. does that mean he is comparable to a franchise player who has much better statistical seasons, for longer periods of time, and multiple times? and who on top of that has allstar selections, all nba team selections, and a mvp award???
i hate the mavs just as much as i hate the lakers, and dont care for dirk at all. but he is a better player than bynum and is going to give you close to 20 and 10. Bynum hasnt even shown that his body can handle playing 38mpg, let alone produce his glorious numbers of 13 and 10 for an entire season.
off the top of my head, if i could choose one bigman for my team next season, i would choose
duncan
garnett
dirk
brand
amare
yao
dwight howard
bosh
gasol
al jefferson
sheed
camby
chandler
before i pick bynum, and it feels like im forgetting a lot of players. bynum right now is just a nice role player, and camby and chandler play that role way better.
5 years from now my opinion might change, but i dont really care about 5 years from now.
Why are you turning this into a BYNUM VS DIRK thread?
The fact remains Dirk isn't much of an INSIDE player, especially offensively like you claimed.
And you're comparing a Dirk in his prime to a 20 year old Bynum. Fact remains, Bynum was more productive at 20 than Dirk was at 20.
Dirk was more productive with the ladies at 20 than Bynum is.
im sure bynum owned more then half of the players on that list last year.
Why are you including Power Forwards? This is a list of Centers in the NBA, not power forwards.
If you were building a Franchise around a player right now, Duncan, KG, Dirk, Brand, Amare, Yao, Gasol, Camby, Sheed are ALL off the list immediately.
I would take Bynum over DHo even though DHo is currently better, Bynum has a much wider skillset
sheed, camby, chandler you would pick over Bynum? You can have them.
1. 13.1 and 10.2 rebounds is stellar for a 20 year old
2. You're not counting his improvement through the season
11.4 and 8 in November
13.9 and 9.1 in December
17.3 and 12.2 in January in 29.5 minutes
As the season progressed, Bynum got better and better. The Lakers didn't know how good Bynum was early on but as the season progressed, they started getting the ball to him more and more. Bynum knows what to do with the ball as shown by his insane, video-game like, shooting percentage.
If I was building a team right now, I'd take 20 year old Bynum over 30 year old Dirk, 32 year old Duncan, 32 year old Kevin Garnett, 28 year old Yao, 34 year old Camby and ANY other Center in the NBA.
Last edited by Allanon; 09-19-2008 at 06:37 PM.
with that logic, wade > kobe
hes younger and he has room to improve, right?
like i said, i'm talking about now.
and the whole comparison started because i was saying the center position is weak, and that the top PFs are all hands down better than the top Cs.
DWade & Kobe are only 4 years apart. He's not significantly younger...both guys are playing in pretty much the same era. It's not like Bynum and Duncan who are 12 years apart.
Alright, let's talk right now. If you were building a team around a player right now, in what order would you take these guys? I've left out all the Centers and only using the power forwards.like i said, i'm talking about now.
and the whole comparison started because i was saying the center position is weak, and that the top PFs are all hands down better than the top Cs.
Duncan 32 yrs old
Bynum 20
KG 32
Dirk 30
Camby 34
Brand 30
Amare 25
Gasol 29
Sheed 34
/end of discussion
Go Lakers!
Your Sig may be my new favorite.
You lose another sig/avatar bet?
I wouldn't count out your Mavs just yet even though they should have done something in the offseason instead of sitting on their azz.
I thought Eric Dampier was the second best center in the league?
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