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Scuttlebutt: Democrats still scared less of Palin. More at 10.
hmmm.......
Rumor from some 'well-connected' Texas Republicans is that McCain is considering dumping Palin...(maybe for Romney) seems that she had become to much of a drag on the ticket and the trooper-gate scandal hasn't even reached a crescendo yet....don't know how much weight to put on this rumor but if the sources weren't so reliable in the past, I wouldn't let you know....
....more on this as I hear it..........
Scuttlebutt: Democrats still scared less of Palin. More at 10.
Wishful thinking.
by who? Republicans?
Democrats.
Negative ads, Palin and the POW story are pretty much all McCain has to run on to get undecided voters.
Scuttlebutt: Democrats still scared less of Palin. More at 10.
Personally, I hope he keeps her on the ticket, she has the worst favorable ratings of all four.
Keep her John:
http://www.tampabay.com/news/politic...icle818181.ece
ST. PETERSBURG — Five weeks ago, the St. Petersburg Times convened a group of Tampa Bay voters who were undecided about the presidential election. Their strong distrust of Barack Obama suggested it was a group ripe for John McCain to win over.
Not anymore. The group has swung dramatically, if unenthusiastically, toward Democrat Obama. Most of them this week cited the same reason: Sarah Palin.
"The one thing that frightens me more than anything else are the ideologues. We've seen too many," said 80-year-old Air Force veteran Donn Spegal, a lifelong Republican from St. Petersburg, who sees McCain's new running mate as the kind of "wedge issue" social conservative that has made him disenchanted with his party.
"I'm truly offended by Palin,'' said Republican Philinia Lehr, 37, of Largo, a full-time mother with a nursing degree who voted for George Bush in 2004. Like Palin, she has five children and she doesn't buy that the Alaska governor can adequately balance her family and the vice presidency.
"You're somebody's mom and what are you going to do, say, 'Excuse me, country, hold on?' … She's preaching that she's this mom of the year and taking that poor little baby all over everywhere. And, you know, what she's doing to her 17-year-old daughter is just appalling.'' Lehr said she's bothered by the way Palin's pregnant daughter has been brought into the national spotlight.
Of the 11 undecided voters participating in the discussion one recent evening at the Times — four Republicans, five Democrats, and two registered to no party — only two Republican men applauded the selection of Palin.
Nobody had finalized a choice, but seven of the panelists said that McCain's running mate selection had made them more likely to vote for Obama, and in several cases much more likely.
"And that ticks me off because I do not want Obama,'' said Democrat Annette Kocsis, 68, a former Hillary Rodham Clinton supporter from Clearwater, scoffing at "the pit bull in lipstick," as Palin has called herself.
Palin, who makes her first Florida campaign stop Sunday in a Republican stronghold in north-central Florida, has generated enthusiasm among conservatives. But at least with this randomly selected group of swing voters, she appears to be an obstacle to McCain's winning over disillusioned Democrats or moderates.
"That was almost insulting," Democrat Rhonda Laris of Temple Terrace, another strong Clinton backer skeptical of Obama, said of the Palin pick. "Do they think we're really stupid? … I'm definitely leaning toward the Democratic side now. Sarah Palin scares ... me."
Obama is not making inroads because of anything he has done or said. It's more that McCain has repelled these swing voters in the biggest battleground region of the biggest battleground state. In several cases, voters who had sounded hungry for a reason to vote for McCain now sound resigned to settling for Obama.
"It's McCain's beliefs," said Annette Maakestad, 57, of St. Petersburg, explaining why she's shifting toward Obama. "I don't think he's changed or he's going to change his party that much."
But they're still not sold on the Illinois senator.
"I really wanted someone youthful and someone who could relate more to the future generations," said Republican Jim Soltis, 70, of Holiday, who is weighing his desire for expanded health insurance access with maintaining Bush's tax cuts. "So I keep watching and watching and hoping for Obama to say the right things, and he's not saying them."
Most members of the panel participated in a similar meeting in August, though three new voters joined the group this week. The conventions did nothing for them — bored them, in many cases — and they're looking for the debates starting Friday to finally help them make up their minds.
"I'm not crazy about Obama, and I'm really not crazy about McCain," said Democrat Carlos Gonzalez, a 70-year-old higher education administrator from Oldsmar, who preferred Clinton. "I really have not heard anybody saying what they're going to do with this mess we have."
Rebecca Montilla, a 22-year-old premed student at the University of South Florida, began questioning her Democratic allegiances when it struck her in the primary that Democrats were sounding reckless about yanking troops out of Iraq. Obama's inexperience worries her, but she comes from a lower-middle-class family in Orlando that is increasingly struggling to keep food on the table. McCain offers no reassurance.
"I go back and forth, like, every day,'' she said. "It just seems like a lot of bickering, and it's really difficult for me to see what McCain's going to do and what Obama's going to do."
Said Lehr: "I wish we could put them both back in the hat, shake it up, and start over and pick two new candidates."
Adam C. Smith can be reached at [email protected] or (727) 893-8241.
What they're saying about Palin
"The one thing that frightens me more than anything else are the ideologues. We've seen too many."
Donn Spegal, 80, St. Petersburg, Republican Air Force veteran
"I'm truly offended by Palin. You're somebody's mom and what are you going to do, say, 'Excuse me, country, hold on?' "
Philinia Lehr, 37, Largo, Republican full-time mother
"That was almost insulting. Do they think we're really stupid? ... I'm definitely leaning toward the Democratic side now. Sarah Palin scares ... me." "
Rhonda Laris, Temple Terrace, Democrat
"She is Cheney with a dress on."
Bill Chever, 56, St. Petersburg, Independent Air Force veteran
Pick one dumbass, you don't get both."I really wanted someone youthful and someone who could relate more to the future generations," said Republican Jim Soltis, 70, of Holiday, who is weighing his desire for expanded health insurance access with maintaining Bush's tax cuts.
Unless we find out she committed a felony, there is no way McCain drops her.
Ummm...either thursday or friday I know that the McCain campaign handed out 17,000 tickets for an event. Yeah, he's gonna drop Palin.
You're arguing with a guy quoted in an article. He's not on this forum dumbass. You're losing it.
Good lord these people are dumb. Look up the word "rhetorical"
Nice. Now you can go back to yelling at the tv.
Scuttlebutt: Democrats still scared less of Palin. More at 10.
Scuttlebutt: Americans are caught up in the two party system so much, they can't see the forest becuase of all the trees. More at 11.
"Democrats still scared less of Palin"
Her approval ratings are down 24% from peak, and more disapprove of her than approve.
Palin was a flash-in-the-pan. But it would be election suicide for McSenile to flush her.
It's not like anyone else is going to improve McCain's chances.
They got you with Palin. Thanks for proving me right once again.
I have a reliable source saying he will replace her with Hillary.
Please do not press me for any further details.
Isn't he still up in the polls?
Nice attempt at changing the subject though.
Typical hoot.
I heard that some of the bounce was gone, but I thought he was still ahead. I don't have my personal reputation riding on a crush on Palin like you do.
I think the race is McCain's to lose barring some acute worsening of the economic situation or something really dramatically bad happening in one of the war theaters.
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