The Complete Meltdown of Our Financial System

[Wild Cobra]

Ray, is your age making you forgetful?

Clambake is a lemming. He believes anything the leftist pundits tell him.

Sorry, I couldn't resist....

[hater]

Here is a good editorial that give a good history of what caused the
meltdown. It goes a long way back and for some of you dyed in the wool
dimms you aren't going to like the fact Bush did try to rein the stuff in.

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArti...06632135350949

Bush didn't do anything to stop the stupidity. Instead he started a war to spend more money.

Now the US is trying to conquer the Middle East with empty pockets.

[hater]

Bush didn't do anything to stop the stupidity. Instead he started a war to spend more money.

Now thanks to Bush, the US is trying to conquer the Middle East with empty pockets.

[xrayzebra]

Ray, is your age making you forgetful?

Clambake is a lemming. He believes anything the leftist pundits tell him.

No he is no lemming, he is just plain dumb. As always.

And who is this guy hater. does he always post to himself?

I will be glad when this election is over so we can get back to some
serious business. I think I will just become a lurker.

[Wild Cobra]

And who is this guy hater. does he always post to himself?

Looks like to me he left out "Bush" hater!

Looks like to me just another lib that doesn't know how to think for himself.

[clambake]

No he is no lemming, he is just plain dumb. As always.

i love the american enterprise ins ute. do you remember the advice they gave in 2003?

I think I will just become a lurker.

will you be able to stomach the inauguration?

[Crookshanks]

Thanks AHF and Wild Cobra, for posting the information backing up my post about Clinton and Reno. I'm at work and don't have the time to look up all the stuff.

This mess is on the democrats - but I fear many of the uneducated will blame the party in office because it's easier and it's what the MSM is pushing to help their boy Obama beat the rap and get elected.

By the way, I heard on the news this morning that a non-partisian group researched just who is the most fiscally responsible person in congress. Guess who it is? JOHN MCCAIN! He has a 100% rating for voting for fiscal responsibility. Obama only had a 18% rating; and guess who's at the bottom - good ole Joe Biden - his rating is 0%!

Also, John McCain did not ask for a single earmark in this last budget year - not a claim that either Obama or Biden can make!

[Shastafarian]

Thanks AHF and Wild Cobra, for posting the information backing up my post about Clinton and Reno. I'm at work and don't have the time to look up all the stuff.

This mess is on the democrats - but I fear many of the uneducated will blame the party in office because it's easier and it's what the MSM is pushing to help their boy Obama beat the rap and get elected.

By the way, I heard on the news this morning that a non-partisian group researched just who is the most fiscally responsible person in congress. Guess who it is? JOHN MCCAIN! He has a 100% rating for voting for fiscal responsibility. Obama only had a 18% rating; and guess who's at the bottom - good ole Joe Biden - his rating is 0%!

Also, John McCain did not ask for a single earmark in this last budget year - not a claim that either Obama or Biden can make!

You're joking right?

[ChumpDumper]

Thanks AHF and Wild Cobra, for posting the information backing up my post about Clinton and Reno. I'm at work and don't have the time to look up all the stuff.

This mess is on the democrats - but I fear many of the uneducated will blame the party in office because it's easier and it's what the MSM is pushing to help their boy Obama beat the rap and get elected.

So Clinton and Reno are to blame but Bush and the Republicans did nothing to fix any of the egregious errors in the six years they were in control of the government?

[SpursFanFirst]

[QUOTE=Shastafarian;2779396]Is there some blame to be placed on people who couldn't afford to pay back these loans? Probably.[QUOTE]



Probably? In your opinion, when would be a good time for people to start taking responsibilities for their actions?

[SpursFanFirst]

at Bill Clinton still being blamed over 7 years after he left.

So, in 10 years, we won't STILL be hearing about what a crappy president GWB was?

[Gino]

This isn't a republican/democrat issue. We've been headed down a dangerous road for almost 4 decades. The current wall street crisis is just a scratch and fix is just a bandaid. I have no idea how long we can keep printing money with nothing to back it up but simple economics dictates that you can't live on credit forever.

This is a disingenuous graph. Our National debt as a percentage of our GDP isn't that bad as compared to previous years. Same with our federal deficit.

[Gino]

Bull ! Go look at my first post in this thread on the national debt. The whole point was that both parties are not acting in your interest. It is Obama supporters who are trying to lay it all on Bush and claim Clinton was perfect. I have plenty of criticism of Bush and McCain. Obama supporters are the one's pretending that he is the saviour when the simple undeniable fact is that he has absolutely no record to prove that he isn't a complete partisan politician who will continue to put party before country. Want to prove me wrong then give me some examples of when he has done ANYTHING to comprimise with the other side to benefit YOU! It's really a rhetorical question since I know (and you know) that you cannot.

It's easy to criticize Bush, McCain, Palin, Biden because they have actually taken stands and done things (whether you agree with them or not). Obama has just been present since asking corrupt politicians to make him a US Senator (his words not mine). Yeah, he's gonna change things.

I agree 100%.

[Shastafarian]

Is there some blame to be placed on people who couldn't afford to pay back these loans? Probably.

Probably? In your opinion, when would be a good time for people to start taking responsibilities for their actions?

When they learn how to properly use quote tags???

[MannyIsGod]

Ugh, there's so much complete bull in this thread.

I'll pass.

[hater]

So Clinton and Reno are to blame but Bush and the Republicans did nothing to fix any of the egregious errors in the six years they were in control of the government?

good luck getting your question answered. I made the same point pages ago with no answer from the Bush lovers

[SpursFanFirst]

When they learn how to properly use quote tags???

oh boy. Aren't you a funny one.
Get back to me when you have a real answer.

[ChumpDumper]

It's easy to criticize Bush, McCain, Palin, Biden because they have actually taken stands and done things (whether you agree with them or not). Obama has just been present since asking corrupt politicians to make him a US Senator (his words not mine). Yeah, he's gonna change things.

You never produced the quote where Obama says he asked corrupt politicians to make him a US Senator.

[Shastafarian]

oh boy. Aren't you a funny one.
Get back to me when you have a real answer.

That was my answer.

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=105271

[SpursFanFirst]

That was my answer.

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=105271

So, I guess in your world, the government is to blame for all that is wrong?

Can't pay your mortgage bill? Blame the government.

Lose your job for not getting work done? Blame the goverment.

Spend all your money on beer and cigarettes, and now you have no money for gas? Blame the goverment.

Whatever you do, do NOT blame yourself!

[Shastafarian]

I would blame myself if a neighbor got a lower rate and I didn't do anything about it. *See linked thread above to understand joke*

[SpursFanFirst]

I would blame myself if a neighbor got a lower rate and I didn't do anything about it. *See linked thread above to understand joke*

I saw your link....and if you'd taken the time to actually READ and COMPREHEND what was said, you would've noticed that I said, "Yes, I'd be mad, but I'd also look for a better rate."

I guess you needed that pointed out for you.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

So, I guess in your world, the government is to blame for all that is wrong?

Can't pay your mortgage bill? Blame the government.

Lose your job for not getting work done? Blame the goverment.

Spend all your money on beer and cigarettes, and now you have no money for gas? Blame the goverment.

Whatever you do, do NOT blame yourself!

Yep, it's what Dems do best Blame the man instead of growing up and being one themselves.

[Shastafarian]

I saw your link....and if you'd taken the time to actually READ and COMPREHEND what was said, you would've noticed that I said, "Yes, I'd be mad, but I'd also look for a better rate."

I guess you needed that pointed out for you.

ahhhh I didn't notice you changed your post. What a shame. I liked it better when you just ed and moaned about people getting better rates. When did you add in the other stuff about being "mad" and "look for a better rate"?

[clambake]

cindy became a financial genuis at birth.

john became one when he married cindy.